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What, he can't share their playbook from the Practice Squad?

Like a lot of QBs he was projected. He's a height, weight, build, arm strength projection who had good success in College. The polished article rarely comes out of College. As for Famous J - he's a rapist, so no thank you.

Yes, sadly I think he can be 'the guy' for the Saints. Despite being a rapist he's incredibly talented. Payton will get the most out of him.

Herndon - 71 receptions, 796 yards, 7 TDs (he missed a year with injury) Thomas - 72 receptions, 614 yards, 4 TDs. So no, no he isn't. That's a very crafty trade by the Vikings.

Yep, we don't have the Draft capital to make any more trades. Only trades I see happening are guys leaving - but we couldn't even get anything for Moore so I doubt that happens. This is the roster, bar the odd FA shuffle.

I didn't want to mention this, but he beat Miami.

I don't think Marshall was the issue with Moore. It's Smith coming in and taking his job that was the problem.

I personally think Moore is a better player than Zylstra, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

If guys look like they belong early they don't tend to regress. Brown and Chinn are going to be superstars. I'm less bullish on YGM. Obviously THIS rookie class has yet to see the field during the regular season, but their pre-season performances have been stellar. Again, they look better than a lot of seasoned vets we've brought in / played against. There's a lot of room for optimism.

We haven't played a down yet, so you haven't been proven right either.

They had their shot.

Speaking of, did David Moore catch on with the Jets?

You see it every now and again in College. Teams are geared up to stop Spread offences so they don't have the personnel to match up when a Boston College comes to town. In the NFL obviously those extremes aren't quite the same (mainly due to the insane athletes roaming the field), but I could see us lining up in 12 set and causing teams matchup problems. Worked with Shockey and Olsen (albeit they're both Pro Bowl TEs).

That's what you get with bargain basement FA acquisitions. We tried to fill holes on the roster so we could Draft BPA. Same this year. Smith made Moore expendable - that's a huge positive. Perryman, and it pains me to say it as a huge Canes fan, was being a knobhead.

I still want to see them play for 4 games before passing judgement. As for Jordan, who knows. He seems to have very quickly fallen out of favour - started pre-season as the starter. He's worth kicking the tyres on. I will say we're definitely leaning towards athleticism over size on the Oline. We're going to get bullied in short yardage situations.

Has a better arm than Grier (he starts at 4.10).

Laser focused but unable to put up back-to-back winnings seasons.

I don't think you understand what the word 'significant' means. This isn't a Whale or Lucas FA signing.

Wasn't he? Seems to me he turned two programmes around and turned them into 10+ game winners and was then poached by the Panthers - the Jets interviewed him the previous year and the Giants wanted to interview him too. He was very much on the rise as a HC and had a lot of success behind him. Saban's talent is having his mate as the head of the NCAA. He just cheats and stacks his rosters / coaching staff. You saw what he achieved with a level playing field in Miami.

So where's the criticism coming from then? Our roster last year, pre-Draft, was horrendous. We relied heavily on Brown, Chinn, YGM and Roy. Pride played, but was in and out of the lineup. He's not a magician.

I want him. Just because I'd do the Jordan Bulls intro every. fuging. game. I live for the memes. "Starting at LG, from THE Ohio State University.... Michael Joooooooooordan".

There's a number of fans that have a huge downer on Rhule. Personally I think it's because he's the guy that cut their hero, but maybe I'm projecting... Winning 5 games last year with that roster (and I was livid we didn't win 6 - we should have beaten the Broncos) was an incredible achievement. People don't seem to appreciate how talent depleted our roster was (thanks Rivera and Hurney!). We're in the stage of building it back up now - and (early days) have crushed back-to-back Drafts to expedite that process - but it's not going to happen overnight. I think his attention to detail, focus on culture and teaching are all breaths of fresh air in this franchise. I genuinely see nothing but positives so far from Rhule - even the Bridgewater stuff is a positive. He listened to his mentor (Parcells) and his OC (Brady) and brought in a guy they recommended. Said guy was a mediocre starting NFL QB. That's not the standard Rhule is setting so he moved him on. As for who will be better, personally I think Rhule if he doesn't burn himself out trying to rebuild this franchise (he's a programme builder). I'm hopeful that this is the first organisation that he stays there long enough to reap the benefits of what he's sowed.

Thomas is a weird one. They've talked him up all off-season. Everyone knows he's awful though - they MUST be trying to trade him, right?

Ah that old chestnut.