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Has he made the team worse? He's certainly broken the 'odd year good, even year bad' cycle that we were on, but we were never anything more than a mediocre franchise. I maintain that we're very close to being a good team - the Brady hire(and the fallout of that - the muddled QB situation, the lack of investment in the OLine) literally torpedoed everything. I have a lot of faith in McAdoo being a competent OC, which would be light years better than what we've had the last two seasons. The defence is very good and only getting better - and will benefit from not being on the field all game.

Is this you admitting to be a cuck too?

You forgot to add: won the National Championship by carrying the offence on his back. I'm by no means Newton's biggest fan, but you can't favourably compare Willis to him at all.

Ridder would have been wise to come out last year. As always with these QB prospects, the longer you start the more tape scouts have to pick apart your game. He's not very well thought of in scouting circles from what I can see - inaccurate as hell with lots of mechanical flaws.

Exactly, which is why last year's offence was a disaster.

Agreed. They picked up a project QB and put him behind the worst OLine in the NFL. More fool them.

Unless he's going to grow a new leg before April it's still relevant.

Shanahan is about to lose that locker room. You spent 3 first round picks on that guy - you can't say he's not ready to start.

The Cuckening. What happened to Will Smith, man. What a fall from grace. He was the coolest man on the planet and now he's a cuck.

It doesn't really matter - Tomlin could not have had a more extensive, in-depth look at Pickett. If he's not trading up for him then he's not a franchise QB.

As many have alluded to on here, you don't fug around when it comes to potential franchise QBs. If we think there's one in this Draft (there isn't) then you take him at #6 - you don't mortgage a future 1st round pick to move back into the 1st in 2022 to pick the one that falls. That's even more moronic when you consider that next year's Draft is much stronger at QB.

Imagine if the Steelers didn't take Pickett when all Tomlin has to do is step out of his office to watch Pickett practice. Would say a hell of a lot about him as a potential franchise QB.

Hubbard ran for 600 yards and 5 TDs (and nearly 800 all purpose yards) behind a dogshit OLine. No, he didn't set the world alight, but I'll take that for a 4th round pick. The only disappointment so far from that Draft class has been Marshall - everyone else has flashed potential.

I genuinely can't look past Charles Cross at #6, regardless of who else is on the board.

I'd laugh so hard at that.

Depends who's there and what the offer is, but it's pretty clear the second round didn't go how they expected last year. Tepper was clearly relieved when we drafted Christensen after those trades because every other OT on our board went in that period. If you have an OT at #6 that you've identified as a good starting LT don't complicate things things.

Neal went to Alabama - a pro weight room won't be much (if any) better than what he's done for 3 years. Those guys don't tend to make a big leap once they hit the NFL - they're maxed out in College, but at least you know what you're getting.

He hasn't played baseball for four years. Unless he's Josh Hamilton it isn't going to happen for him.

More worrying that they're plugging in Elflein to play LG again. He can't do it - he's simply too small.

"Give me $50m every year or I'll go ride the bus on barely minimum wage in the Minors"?

Do team owners regularly talk to the media, or is this just another bee the Panthers fans have in their bonnet about this current administration?

Cool, let's see how it plays out.

Pretty much this. We traded for him based on potential and treated him with kid gloves in the pre-season as Sean Ryan tried to rework Darnold's footwork and processing. Come the regular season we put him behind an OLine that let the opposing defence cave his head in. He ended up with a concussion and a fractured shoulder blade. Now it seems we're incredibly keen to move on from him - with the kicker being that the new QB is going to have a competent OLine infront of him, which is just cruel. In my opinion the #6 pick should be spent on continuing to improve that OLine with a LT and we should draft a QB on Day 3, or pick up a Dalton / Fitzpatrick / Smith in FA to bolster the QB room. We can't go into the new season with PJ Walker as the backup, he's terrible. You're already paying Darnold $18m this year - and you're not in a position to pick up a significant upgrade without overdrafting / trading away valuable resources. Put him behind a good OLine and play out the season - if he's still terrible then there's 3 QBs you can target next year in the Draft (along with the usual QB carousel in FA) - either way that LT at #6 pays dividends.

It's been that way for him since HS. He was a massively heralded recruit at the time.

That's never a consideration for me when trying to draft a franchise LT in the Top 10.