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Sean Ryan is a fine QB Coach. Our error was putting him behind the worst OLine in the NFL.

He'll undoubtedly go and have more success in College. His skillset didn't translate to the pros - I wouldn't call him a fraudulent hype man though. Not unless you think Nick Saban is the same.

Honestly I don't want to recognise the team anymore. Whoever the new HC is next year has to completely revamp the culture of this organisation. The odd good season sprinkled into multiple losing ones is not good enough.

He's unbelievably stupid.

Mayfield has been the worst QB we've put out there for some time - he's absolutely awful. Which is no surprise now he doesn't have a brick wall infront of him and Chubb and Hunt to hand the ball off to.

I wanted Robinson to be good too after his XFL stint, but evidently he's clearly just not. I wouldn't have kept PJ Walker around, but QB is a sore subject around here.

Nixon went to Iowa. Chandler and Franklin are fine depth / spot players - which is what they played.

They're not actually bad players - people have focused way too much on the Temple / Baylor connection. Whitehead is the only one you can really argue was poor.

The moronic thing for me was trading for a talented, but shellshocked QB and putting him behind the worst OLine in the NFL. Darnold behind our current OLine (with McCaffrey actually healthy) might have actually got us over the hump. Sadly he's ruined now.

The roster is a damn sight better now than when he took over. It's disingenuous to say otherwise.

Man with that kind of insight you should be in an NFL Front Office rather than posting on a message board. It was seen as a coup by everyone. It didn't work out - hindsight is always 20-20.

Give over, we aren't the Raiders or Philly. This is a Charmin soft fan base, he'd happily stroll through the tailgate and come out the other end unscathed.

I assume he'd fulfil the Rooney Rule requirement. There's no way he should get the job full time.

Why even trade him at that point? You're essentially giving away your best player for free. Why? What's the thought process behind that?

Sorry, was anything substantial shared in those tweets? I certainly don't think so. Let's hope the follow up tweets are more interesting.

A good (not great) QB would have this team at .500, regardless of the coach, so yes we're close. That said you're nowhere without a QB, so who knows where we'll be next season.

Give me Kellen Moore.

That's a very odd thread title.

If the next coach has a win percentage under .300 in Yr 3 he'd expect to be fired too. What have we won, 1 in 13?

The only pieces people would want to trade for are the players you wouldn't want to lose - and they'd expect them for pennies on the dollar. No thanks.

To be fair the current stud is on the injury report every week with a one niggle or another and 75% of the fan base thinks that the team has ran him into the ground (even though he's barely played for 2 years). Can't win.

Absolutely disagree that we don't have a quality roster - and trading away McCaffrey for pennies on the dollar doesn't make it any stronger either. poo article.

Well he can't throw the ball accurately, his passes are frequently tipped at the LOS, he locks on to his first read and he turtles up at the first sign of pressure - so I'd suggest he'd look much the same.

The sad thing is the team talent has improved significantly under Rhule's tenure. If you played this year's OLine with last year's Darnold (those first 4 games before we broke him by asking him to play behind turnstiles) then we might all be singing a different tune. Instead he's now broken and we're watching Mayfield poo the bed every week and wasting a good (but not great) defence.