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Kenny Pickett has 7 (passing) TDs, 9 INTs and 4 fumbles my dude.

I think Young is the better College QB. I think Stroud will be the better NFL QB. A portion of that is down to his size, but not all of it. I don't think he can see the middle of the field (see below), I don't think he has a good NFL arm and I just think he'll get crumpled by NFL athletes. His off-script style of play (which he resorts to cos he misses reads imo) doesn't work without having an elite intangible - for Murray and Wilson (two QBs of similar height) it's due to their mobility, which I don't think Young has. For Mahomes it's due to his ridiculous arm which Young definitely doesn't have. I'm actually not fully convinced by Stroud either - his arm strength is 'good enough', but he's going to have to throw with a ton of anticipation for it to work in the NFL.

But Young isn't 6'3". It's like saying if Darnold had Peyton Manning's brain he'd be the MVP. He doesn't, so he's on his third NFL team in four years.

When did Steve Smith say he thinks Richardson is the guy?

The NFL Draft is about projection.

As discussed it's all fun and games, but if they pick a bust then everyone in the room when the trade went down needs to be fired. They gave away SO much.

We wouldn't be taking a QB if we followed that reasoning.

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I can't shake the feeling that in 3 years time people will be discussing how ludicrous it was that Young was ever in the conversation for #1 overall and of course he was going to bust.

I'm not a big fan of retiring numbers. At a push I'd say you can retire a number if the player makes the NFL Hall of Fame. So we should be good.

There was no way he was starting over Trask - he threw for 4,200 yards and 43 TDs that year. Emory Jones started under Mullen - I don't think he trusted Richardson, plus it's the whole political game of if you start the underclassman the older player will just transfer. That said it's all assumptions, I'm not a Gators fan.

Do you think that completion percentage tells the whole story?

Kyle Trask (2nd round pick / Bucs QB) when Richardson was a Freshman, then Emory Jones who I believe was the 'next in line' and a Redshirt Junior (albeit looking at his eligibility now he's a 6th year player next season thanks to COVID). Richardson ran him off in the Spring (transferred to Arizona St).

Is it when you've got two SEC DCs saying "I'd take Stroud / he doesn't handle NFL level athletes well"?

It was T. J. Houshmandzadeh, the ex-Bengals WR- and he didn't have Richardson in his camp.

Nor should he have.

He was wearing one of those GPS 'Catapult' trackers - not entirely sure why though as that session surely wasn't recorded.

As a QB prospect he's the outstanding one in this Draft - his highlights tape is by far the best, and it's only 13 games or so. He has poor / lazy footwork, but that's fixable - I posted in the Pro Day thread about how it's mainly his short accuracy that drags his completion percentage down (well that and his awful receivers - @Varking how the hell does #1 Pearsall see the field at Florida?!). The key for him will be his personality - I've no idea what it's like. He says he wants to be the best in interviews with the media, but you'd need to do a much deeper dive to convince me. I think the only way he busts is if he tries to coast on his talent and is happy with that initial pay cheque. I think he's already made a wise decision leaving Florida after 1 year - he wasn't getting good coaching there and was surrounded by awful receiving talent. If he commits to improving his mechanics then he's going to be a terrifying prospect for (I sadly assume) AFC South teams twice every year for the next decade... but admittedly we said that about Newton, so who knows.

He's literally a pocket QB. Are people genuinely seeing his 40 yard time and thinking "well he's clearly a run first QB"? 'Cos that's not what he shows on tape.

To be fair he references that in his twitter bio.

He's a Gators fan, he'll have seen more of Richardson than any of us. Kentucky (a good defence btw) was Richardson's 3rd ever career start (I think he started a game as a Redshirt Freshman). Even then he's pulling out throws like this: *this video is difficult to watch - there's 3 legit terrible drops immediately after that incredible throw The deal that people seem to be missing about Richardson is that it's not what he currently is that people are drafting, it's what he's got a chance of becoming. That isn't 'pie in the sky' potential either based purely on his measurables, you can visibly see him improve throughout the 2022 season and his pocket presence / processing is one of the more impressive things about him. If he doesn't progress a lick from where he is now he's still a second round pick and an NFL starter - a big armed QB with a nice deep ball that you'd lean on heavily in the running game (until he inevitably broke). As I've repeatedly said, I think it's all a moot point 'cos we're most likely taking Stroud, but Richardson is the only QB I get excited about in this Draft.

You can see they respect him on that 'behind the scenes' Pro Day video Ohio St released. A quiet leader, but one nethertheless.

That metric weirdly doesn't seem to translate to arm strength - but either way the Panthers have already said they won't be doing drills with the prospects when they visit Charlotte.

Which is what his tape shows.