OldhamA

I mean they were also looking for the best players they could draft. Maybe they thought a potential shutdown corner / potential #1 WR was better value than a guy that would just be thrown into the mix at OL. We have A LOT of guys heading into camp on the Oline. I'm pretty certain they've got no idea how that's going to pan out, besides picking the best 5 guys and making it work. You could see any combination of players - it'll be an open competition. If they didn't think one of the guys we passed up before Christensen was going to nail down one of those jobs, but loved Marshall / Horn then why take them?

Double post.

That Hubbard rumour needs to die. That was Rhule joking around with a Draft pick on the phone. Watch his reaction when it was brought up in the post-Draft press conference. With a face like thunder he said something like "I love my wife dearly, but no she was not involved with this Draft." I think EJ is wrong on Nixon btw - he's far too quick and agile to just be written off as a bullrusher.

I think the Bucs had a terrible Draft.

Joe Tryon and Payton Turner.

He more than held his own against two first round DEs picked this year. If I'm Rhule I'm giving Christensen every chance to fail at LT in TC / the preseason.

X-Clown and it's not even close.

They might want to consider putting him back where they found him.

I don't know if you took a gander at the Jets roster this past season, but when Crowder is your #1 you're bold faced tanking. It's rare though, I agree.

Newton strikes me as the type of guy to walk away from the game before he'd accept being a backup.

I don't think we do. He's had McCown and Flacco in his ear for two of his three years in the league. It's time to spread his wings and fly.

That's the only question, really. I would never, ever go into a season with just 2 QBs on the roster (fug having a guy on the PS). How those 3 breaks down depends on your situation - could be 3 guys competing for the job, or a bonafide starter, a good backup and a developmental guy. Either way it's the most important position in sports. I'm not ready to write off Grier just yet. We know what we have in Walker - a guy that can spot start, but he's not someone to bank on. If Stevens beats out any of those guys based on his ability to throw a football and read a defence then fantastic - the other stuff he can do is gravy. You make a good point though - Rhule loves versatility and Brady threw the guy into games last year, so he's got to be a front runner for a roster spot.

Can someone check whether Trainwreck has gone off the rails since the Draft, or has he / she / they always been like this? If it's a recent thing, by George, I think I've found the catalyst.

Because Matt Rhule is here to win football games.

It's too early to write some of those players off, especially with COVID opt outs. That said I never have high hopes for a Hurney Draft. We'll know for sure this year.

Everyone's a bust until proven otherwise. It's was just easier to get Hurney Drafts that way.

I wobbled with the first bold, and you lost me with the second one. The WTFs finished with a 7-9 record. Rivera backing his way into the Playoffs is not to be commended - nor was it when he did it here. They've got some absolute ballers on that WTFs team - that Dline is nasty. That said, they're worse than us (as evidenced by us defeating them last season), but they played in a pathetic division. Unlike the murderer's row that we find ourselves in.

Cam Newton.

That's a very, very high bar. I hope he clears it.

Balanced out when we cut Jansen.

I mean they've no idea yet. It's not like he's lined up across from Burns and been roasted. He's going through basic drills and undergoing the start of the offensive gameplan install. They'll know what they have in August. And I'd take an elite G any day of the week if that's what he turns into.

Do they have two first rounders to send us?

I've just stumbled across it on YouTube. I enjoyed it - it's a silly schedule release video. They had fun. Appreciated Darnold's drawing on the flipchart in the back of the room.

Sorry, I think you missed the part where he went to Alabama.

The only real annoyance I have with Tepper so far is that he sat back that first year. If I'd just spent $2bn on a football team I'd be coming in with a new team and ideas. I wouldn't be assessing what was already going on - we knew what was already going on wasn't working. Especially considering I was a minor owner of the Steelers for years so I had first hand knowledge of how things should be run.