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Fair play to the new GM in Houston if he can get anything worthwhile for Watson.

Well he built them both from literally nothing to 10 win seasons - he left both before he could really reap the benefits of what he sowed because a bigger offer came along. Baylor was a scorched wasteland when he got there.

How are we not trending in the right direction? What you guys don't seem to realise is that Rhule isn't an Xs and Os guru. He's a programme builder. He's here to stack the roster and install a culture. Let's look at what he's done so far (hint: it's no coincidence that a lot of our best players come from the list below): 2021 Draft 1 - Jaycee Horn (CB), USCe - looking like an exceptional player 2 - Terrace Marshall Jr. (WR), LSU - shown flashes of being a very good player 3 - Brady Christensen (OL), BYU - unknown 3 - Tommy Tremble (TE), ND - productive starter with upside 4 - Chuba Hubbard (RB), Ok St. - v. capable backup 5 - Daviyon Nixon (DT), Iowa - v. capable backup 5 - Keith Taylor (CB), Wash - v. capable backup 6 - Deonte Brown (OL), Alabama - Huddle legend 6 - Shi Smith (WR), USCe - unknown, but flashed in debut 6 - Thomas Fletcher (LS), Alabama - unknown 7 - Phil Hoskins (DT), Kentucky - unknown 2020 Draft 1 - Derrick Brown (DT), Auburn - stud 2 - Yetur Gross-Matos (DE), Penn St. - v capable starter 2 - Jeremy Chinn (S), South. Ill. - stud 4 - Troy Pride Jr. (CB), ND - unknown, but probably not going to make the roster next year 5 - Kenny Robinson Jr. (S), WVU - STs ace 6 - Bravvion Roy (DT), Baylor - capable backup 7 - Stantley Thomas-Oliver (CB), Fl. Int - see TP Jr. I've highlighted the 6-7 starters we've drafted in the last 2 years. There's 3 serious role players in those drafts too (and 4 more that could develop into serious contributors). That's absurdly good. I'm purposely not including FA and trade acquisitions, which I also think have been very good - I'm a big fan of the price we paid for Darnold, Henderson and Gilmore and the acquisition of Reddick, Jones, Fox and Bouye. (I'm a bigger fan of Elflein and Erving than most too). I'm extremely happy with the way things are trending, they just need to address the Oline in the offseason.

So a third of the time he's 'hurried' when our entire passing game is three step hitch and get the ball out? Yeah, zero problems with the Oline there then!

Lies, damn lies and statistics. If Darnold has the 8th highest average time to throw in this league, why does literally everyone want 3 new starting iOL and a new LT? He's getting hit on almost every drop back. Often he's getting hit before he gets into the hitch in his drop back - it's fuging absurd. Any time teams want to generate pressure they just run a stunt and come clean through up the middle.

God these comments....: 2001 - Weinke (15 games), Lytle (1 game) 2002 - Peete (14 games), Fasani (1 [0QB rating] game), Weinke (1 game) 2007 -[the corpse of] Testaverde (6 games), Carr (4 games), Moore (3 games), Delhomme (3 games) 2009 - [the corpse of] Delhomme (11 games),Moore (5 games) 2010 - Clausen (10 games), Moore (5 games), St Pierre (1 game) 2019 - Allen (12 games), [the corpse of] Newton (2 games), Grier (2 games).

How do you expect the QB to process what is happening when he has instant pressure to deal with? Peyton Manning in his prime would look like a scrub behind this Oline.

My nickname for Joe Brady is Charlie Bucket. He lucked into a golden ticket (Payton's playbook). So far he's been smart enough to parlay that into an NFL OC gig - but darn he needs to adjust what he's doing quickly because the NFL is starting to chew him up and is ready to spit him out.

The Vikings CBs were definitely running the routes for our WRs yesterday. My biggest concern, and I think why Rhule said that there will be major changes to play calling and more of a focus on running the ball, is that the Oline simply can't hold up in the passing game. Every time it's an obvious passing situation I'm terrified for our QB.

Same dude that's meant Gronkowski will be in a wheelchair by the time he's 50? Hush, Tom.

Bridgewater's performances fell off a cliff after his injury.

They couldn't wait to get rid of Bridgewater because he was clearly toxic. Maybe they'll move on from Darnold - or hopefully they'll address the iOL and give him a chance. He's flashed way more than Bridgewater ever did.

Watching the MNF highlights makes me sad. Allen just got sacked after holding on to the ball for 6 seconds. The next play he overthrew the WR after holding onto the ball for 5 seconds. Everyone thinks he's a franchise, can't miss, QB 'cos he's playing behind a brick wall. Meanwhile this fanbase thinks our guy is trash because he can't put up MVP numbers when he has pressure in his face every down.

Moton is a RT. He's also nowhere near as good at RT as many of you want to believe. He's a good NFL starter - nothing more. Don't ruin him by asking him to relearn his technique and play LT. This coaching staff dabbled with it in pre-season and didn't like it at all (and yes the Cowboys game tells you they don't see Christensen as a LT either if they were willing to move Moton off his spot to accommodate him).

At a minimum we need to sign a C (I'd give Elflein a run at C for the rest of the season to see what he's got), at least one OG and realistically a LT. Beyond that I'd look for another option at TE and a competent backup QB.

That'll be fun when their new QB (acquired in a franchise crippling deal) gets crippled behind this Oline.

To be fair LSU mostly recruits itself.

The only way this happens is if the $17m buyout of Ed O has bankrupted LSU. I seriously doubt it has so they'll be looking elsewhere for a HC. LOL if they give this rookie OC the reigns though. I'd love to see that.

Panthers fan base "Man, trading a 3rd round pick (receiving a 5th in return) and a future 6th round pick for 2 potential starting CBs is mortgaging our future!" Also Panthers fan base "Get the rapist, you can't win without a Franchise QB in this league! 3 first round picks and 2 defensive starters? Do it".

Turns out when you let away fans run amok in your stadium, poo happens.

6 games in to Year 2 and half the fan base is off the train. Not that you'd notice as half of BOA is sold to away fans.

Whatever fits that posters' narrative.

Taylor literally just gave up the game winning TD...

The pass rush has disappeared and I don't know why.

We need a patented Cook fumble.