SOJA

Would be very interesting. Despite what this board and twitter tell you Burns is still very highly regarded in the league and while we may not get the Rams offer (two firsts and a third). I think if we opened the bidding war we could get from detroit 1st Pick 29 3rd Pick 92 Then a future 2nd or 3rd round pick pending how negotiations went.

Hell let's do here's what SOJA would have done: you can check my post hx (lmao) to verify 2020 1 DB - wanted Okudah and Herbert, DB was third choice over Simmons 2- YGM - would have taken him. Best value at this point at a position of need 2- Chinn- wanted Chin, did not like trade up 4- Troy Pride- wanted Harrison Bryant - wash of busts 5- Kenny Robinson- wanted James Proche 6- Roy - wanted James Proche (ok so that didn't work out) 7 - STO- did not have a strong desire So 2020 comes out to be the only thing I wouldn't have done was trade up for Chinn. 2021 1- Horn- wanted in order: 1. Justin Fields, 2. Rashawn Slater (this is my biggest win, even if you don't like Fields we would NOT be in the position we are today with him OR we would be but still have our first overall pick. Also it made NO sense to trade for Darnold until after the draft so I would have kept a 6th and future second and fourth). Slater also would have been a better pick just saying 2 Marshall- Loved the trade down and pick, no arguments 3 Christiansen- loved the pick no arguments 3 Tremble- was fine with this pick 4- Chuba- liked the pick felt like it was a bit of a reach 5- Daviyon Nixon- absolutely loved this pick thought we crushed this at the time 5 Keith Taylor- again loved this pick thought we again crushed 6 Deonte Brown- loved this as well 6 Shi Smith- loved this pick too 6 Fletcher- worst pick of all time would have been better off drafting my wife she would have been more helpful to the team, I'm not even joking 7 Hoskins- didn't know much about him when drafted but I saw the vision Overall I actually think we had a very strong draft in 2021 outside of two major decisions. Trading for Darnold predraft and not taking Fields. You flip those two things I think the process of that draft was amazing. 2022 1 Ekwonu- wanted him bad and we got him...time will tell but thus far things aren't looking great. BUT! we said similar things about DB after his first two years 2 (38) Jets I'm making this pick dammit but I would have taken Booth Jr who hasn't really wokred out. 3 did not like the trade up again, but did like drafting matty C 4 (111) Jets making this one too Zamir White 6 Barno/Mays- actually liked these picks 7 Barnes- I mean why not he was blazing fast 2022 in general was a bad draft, not much to salvage there but I did have a prediction this year that the starting QB come 2023 of the Panthers would be.... 2023 1- stroud. I've been vocal about this since April of 2022. He's been my guy since that Rose Bowl game. When we traded up and I saw the Vegas odds I was ecstatic....let's not turn this into another Bryce thread. I was fine with the trade up. 2- Mingo. I wanted BJ Ojulari, Brian Branch but Mingo was probably my third choice 3 DJ johnson- haaaated this trade up and selection. Not drafting for it, but I loved both picks pit made with ours so I would have taken them 4 Zavala- loved this pick, still very hopeful for him 5 Robbinson- did not love this one, would have taken Henry To'o To'o So there you have it, if I was at the helm the team wouldn't look that different other than the pivotal moment of drafting Fields and if we still had found ourselves trading up to 1 taking Stroud.

oooooooooffff *IF* we had done that yall we probably would have taken kenny fuging pickett with that eagles pick....jesus christ that would have been abysmal

The most likely conclusion is they take Williams one The second most likely is washington gets desperate and gives them a kings ransom to move up one spot, in which case they would take Maye 2 (the media is kidding themselves right now believing it's not williams 1a and maye 1b). I can't see any scenario Chicago does anything other than those two things

this reply was a lot funnier in my head when I read your username as Shogun

My biggest thing about this offseason is this: "Do NOT go all in next year." No matter what we do this offseason we almost certainly be one of the worst teams in the NFL again next year. That's ok. I'm actually fine with that because we have our first next year. IMO this offseason should be about: One. Resigning core talent on this team Two. Plugging holes at spots with one to two year deals to preserve future cap space. Three. When in doubt, trade down or acquire future draft capital. If we do these things we will be set up very well after next year to either a.) build around bryce as a franchise guy b.) cut ties with Bryce and move on to another high pick qb c.) wait an additional year for bryce and still have flexibility in the year after Essentially our theme should be "Future flexibility." and "Draft good players regardless of position".

ok this website is just dumb

I lied one more insane one ok guys I'm done I promise

One more insanely unrealstic one in which we end up with three round one talents by pick 102

In other completing unrealistic trade news, Jared Verse fell to 33 and the Rams offered me Puka Nakua for pick 65 LMAO

I don't think Ladd is making it out of round 1 yall. I think he's either a Bill or a Chief, I'm not kidding.

So I feel like the following offseason plan is realistic, posted this in another thread. 1 Re-sign Jansen, Luvu and Burns 1a. If unable to resign Burns to reasonable deal, franchise him, if unable to trade let him play out franchise tag or try to trade him mid season. 2 Extend DB 3 Sign Calvin Ridley (1-2 year high incentive deal) backup Curtis Samuel 4 Sign Rasheed Shaheed backup Mack Hollins (1 year high incentive deal) 5. Sign Trent Brown for depth 6. Sign a random Guard (pick anyone) 7. See if YGM comes back on a low cost one year deal to prove last year wasn't a fluke, otherwise sign vet pass rusher 8. Try like hell to trade Hayden Hurst and Miles Sanders (won't happen) Did this mock earlier; you guys will hate it but this team desperately needs to build from the inside to out right now, we are NOT one to two sexy WR's away from being good. Things I want to do this offseason: retain our good core players: Luvu, DB and Burns; not fug our future cap space up that much in FA. Draft *good* players, regardless of position. When in doubt trade down and acquire more picks or future capital. This team should be doing everything in its power to build slowly. Next year is a wash as is. It's the year after and beyond I'm concerned with ESPECIALLY if we have to move off Bryce Young

1 Re-sign Jansen, Luvu and Burns 1a. If unable to resign Burns to reasonable deal, franchise him, if unable to trade let him play out franchise tag or try to trade him mid season. 2 Extend DB 3 Sign Calvin Ridley backup Curtis Samuel 4 Sign Rasheed Shaheed backup Mack Hollins 5. Sign Trent Brown for depth 6. Sign a random Guard (pick anyone) 7. See if YGM comes back on a low cost one year deal to prove last year wasn't a fluke, otherwise sign vet pass rusher 8. Try like hell to trade Hayden Hurst and Miles Sanders (won't happen) Did this mock earlier; you guys will hate it but this team desperately needs to build from the inside to out right now, we are NOT one to two sexy WR's away from being good.

what about this is breaking

to me that makes sense to do with a rookie, CJ stroud is the exception to the rule. Now the hope is your QB develops enough to be able to elevate the offense. I don't think that's impossible for Bryce to do but I think his margin to achieve that is vanishingly narrow

I don't think this team is anywhere close to being "one guy away", so I agree with everyone saying BPA. If the guy is a DT but a stud we could use that. If he's a G and a stud we could use that. CB, DE, TE, WR, etc. I don't think there is a single position I'd be upset with drafting outside of RB (value) or S (value)

I think it's too early to grade but I am not optimistic it will end up being good. Kind of like when you start a book and think..."this isn't very good, but maybe it will get better" Sometimes it does and sometimes you finish the book and think "wow, that was a total waste of time" For me the biggest thing is missing on Bryce if he doesn't pan out. Now critics will say we traded away too much. I disagree. I still believe it was a fair trade, and if we end up taking Stroud no one gives a fug what you gave up. I just think we probably picked the worst of the top 3 guys That being said our wagon is hitched to Bryce for at least one more if not two more seasons so I'm praying he does turn it around

do you have insider info here? What are the chances a longterm deal gets done?

this made me lol

Love you Verge but I would be pretty upset if this is how things turned out

Someone is lying I just don't know who is. Person is reporting Burns asked for 30 a year and was offered 5 mill 27 mill. Early this year it was reported that the Panthers offered the Crosby contract ~23.5 mill a year That being said, the Panthers have been DRAGGED this entire year for not trading burns and then "not trying to sign him". If they offered him 5 years 27 mill a year that is a very fair deal and we can stop saying they "didn't do anything to sign him"

I loved Jameson Williams as a prospect but he is getting vastly overrated in these scenarios, he is not worthy of a first round selection at this point on his own, I could see the Lions getting a third rounder for him at best

sorry spamming this thread today but in this simulator tenn is trading that first like hot cakes

this would be so ideal

Yes it is absolutely brutal we traded away the first overall pick. I legitimately think about it at least once a day, but I still think we can get a good player at 33 and 65 and that also doesn't include a trade down scenario and maybe get three good players