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It is reason for concern...

If true why did the Panthers sign him in the first place?

An element of dysfunction does seem to be emerging...

I have a good buddy who is mid-30's and experiencing a similar scenario as you -- 5+ months in only has minimal ability to taste and smell. That said, this condition wouldn't affect either of you as it goes to your ability to make a tackle What was the total # of opt-outs across the NFL? Will be interesting to see how many of those players make an opening-day roster this year...

What are the factors you mention?

Let's see if he does this year!

I have serious doubts about MLB surviving/thriving anywhere in NC/SC but if the League was to gamble on team here... ...it should go into the Triangle area.

Can you see the mockery tho? Some players hold being a professional in high ranks and feel its a privilege. In walks a 33 year old that never played TE and he just gets a contract? They should have given him a different job/label, if he wanted to be with his daddy figure. Plus years past and many NFL scouts/coaches asked him to switch positions, now ten years later hes willing? Buncha whiny bitches. 1,000's of players get non-guaranteed contracts to show up at camp and try to earn a spot... ...quit bitching and beat the guy out.

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Another categorically false statement by you. Buddy, nobody listens to you and especially not moi... Log off bud, you're embarrassing yourself.

I know nothing about that... ...as for The Appaloosa Model, fire away -- I'd be happy to answer any and all questions you may have!

I'm pretty sure it's the same poster. It's his thing. He gets attached to an idea and spams it everywhere till eventually he pisses enough people off to get himself banned (Linville's already warned him). I've tried to persuade him to listen more and not spam so much but you can see how that's going Past guesses have been Chuck, and some guy with a middle-eastern name... ...who else?

Who does Fitterer report to?

You think Matt Rhule saying "Dave leaves the football stuff to me and Scott" is taken out of context? Darin Gantt/Brandon Todd/Carolina Panthers CHARLOTTE – Panthers owner David Tepper described the process that led to the hiring of general manager Scott Fitterer as "exhaustive." It was also exhausting, as Tepper, head coach Matt Rhule, and chief communications officer Steven Drummond interviewed 15 candidates for the job (four of them twice) over an 11-day span before Fitterer agreed to a deal last Thursday. "There was a lot of stuff learned in those one and half weeks," Tepper said. "In every interview you do, you get a little bit smarter, if you will." Tepper also made it clear that those lessons learned will apply to every major decision moving forward. He admitted in his early days of owning the team (after a stint as a minority partner in Pittsburgh), it was easy to get caught up in the emotions of the sport. There's a lot to take in at a ball game. "There's a little bit of walking in the door and going, 'Wow, football, the NFL,'" Tepper said. "De-mystifying it, a little bit, for myself. I was in Pittsburgh, but I wasn't making those decisions. "But making good decisions is making good decisions. I put it on myself. And sometimes in the past, I didn't put it through the same rigorous decision-making process that I would have done in other things I do in my life." Tepper has freely admitted over the years that he's learning the football industry on the fly. When he bought the team, he started with the business side of the operation because the business world was one he moved comfortably in. So that's the first thing he turned upside down and gave a good shake to. As a result, the coach and GM he inherited were left on their own for a bit, while Tepper decided what he wanted his football operation to look like. Head coach Ron Rivera was gone before the end of Tepper's second season, and after letting Marty Hurney go late in his third, Tepper admitted he was ready to make more informed decisions on his own. [TRANSLATION: Time to install The Appaloosa Model.] "Sometimes students have to graduate," he said in December. "If I've had a successful career away from this sport, well why the heck was I not making the same rigorous decision-making process before," Tepper said Thursday. "I can't say every decision that we made in the past, I probably didn't insist on that. Well, that's not happening anymore." [TRANSLATION: The Appaloosa Model is being fully overlaid on the entire organization, including Football Ops.] Knowing what you want, then gathering all available information before making decisions is obviously a wise way to proceed. [The Appaloosa Way.] And before he hired Fitterer away from the Seahawks (where he effectively functioned as an assistant GM), Tepper made sure to cast a wide net. And he's far from the first NFL owner to use job searches as intelligence-gathering missions. [Smartest man in the room gathering intelligence...straight out of the Appaloosa Playbook.] The late Al Davis would routinely use coaching vacancies as chances to poke around in the closets of his division rivals. And it's no accident the early stages of the Panthers' recent search included a number of personnel men with Patriots ties, among other top organizations such as the Seahawks and Chiefs. But Tepper also met with candidates from a variety of backgrounds and demographics, from 30-something caps-and-contracts guys to veteran evaluators in their 50s, with Super Bowl rings. [Tepper evaluating and choosing "football men"...can't pick good ones if you don't know football yourself, which Tepper clearly does.] Tepper said there were another 10 to 15 candidates he did voluminous research on, who ultimately did not interview for the job. [Appaloosa Way, leave no stone unturned.] He also pointed out that interviewing for a GM vacancy was more complicated than hiring a coach. Coaches have records, and results of individual games on the backs of their football cards. With personnel men, it's hard to know how much authority they had in their team's construction, so it's harder to figure out who gets credit for what. "This was weeks of my life. This wasn't like 15 hours of talking to people (on a videoconference)," he said. "When I say it was exhaustive, I'm not just saying it; it was a fact. And I wasn't the only one talking to people. Drummond was talking to people. Matt talked to people. [Perfect illustration of collaborative nature of Appaloosa Model.] "This was not getting five names from some headhunter and talking to them. We did the research ourselves, . . . the work was put in." [Remember how worked up the "traditionalists" (that's you scottie boy) got when Texans ownership cast aside the advice of the "consultants" and decided to make their own decisions?? LOL...some folks don't recognize archaic even when it slaps them straight across the face.] Tepper hopes that going through that kind of process yields a positive result, as he's firm in the belief that Fitterer will provide the perfect counterpoint to Rhule [TRANSLATION: They are equals, as is required within The Appaloosa Model]. But as important is the fact that he was the main decision-maker [That's Tepper, not some "football man"]. Owning the building conveys a certain authority, but now he absolutely has ownership of the football product on the field. [REPEAT: Tepper "absolutely has ownership of the football product ON THE FIELD." "Everything's my fault at the end of the day because my name's on the door," Tepper said. "But now it's truly my names and my guys in the building. So now it's on me. And now if I messed up, then I messed up, it's on me. "For me, I had to get a certain amount of knowledge, so that in my own mind, I was making the right decisions. Hopefully I made the right decisions." [Tepper is now fully up to speed and fully engaged in all Football Ops, this is undeniable.] https://www.panthers.com/news/david-tepper-reflects-on-long-term-lessons-of-exhaustive-gm-search NOTE: None of this portends for Tepper "dictating" anything as it goes to individual decisions --- period. Anyone who says otherwise clearly does not understand the Appaloosa Model.

Again, a complete dodge on your part --- your rain-man like upchucking of "Showtime" is laughable. Would you like to dig into the details again so you can understand the model? (because it's clear you have no understanding, at all) For starters, who does Fitterer report to? What are your "people" telling you there?

As usual you completely misrepresent the situation. The Appaloosa Model is collaborative in nature and requires that everyone work together to get to consensus decisions... ...and you can be assured Tepper is a party to any and all discussions where decisions of consequence are made. You're clueless bro, log off.

Doesn't take much evaluation to look at a guy like Deshaun Watson and say "Hey, that guy's pretty good. Let's go get him." Draft prospects are a very different ballgame. Hell, everyone sucks at evaluating them. Some just suck worse than others. Linville you're spot on. Certain moves are of a magnitude and associated cost that there is zero chance they are made without the full involvement of the owner. As for the draft, there ain't a subject matter known to man for which David Tepper can't get himself up to an expert/elite level in very short order... ...the more involvement by Tepper, the better the Panthers will operate.

I hope the Packers force him to make that decision.

Regardless of your opinion (or mine) all had winning records with over 60 starts as a Jets QB. Sam was 13-25. NOTE: I am eager to see Sam do well.

As the inimitable Bill Parcells would say... ..."you are what your record says you are".

Burnout189 2,906 Posted 36 minutes ago Yeah, never understood the hate for The Golden Calf of Bristol. Seems like a genuinely good dude who stands up for what he believes in. -------- Agreed Makes for a great story and I wish him well.

Neither..... given what the public knows. I mean if Im forced to pick, Rodgers. But if age isnt a big issue..... I know hes been on a tear with his women problems too......just not at the same rate as Waston per say. Rodgers and one of former ex-esese boy body Danica Patrick both bought a 20 million home with both putting coin in. Among others stuff, dont know if everything is resolved. Hes already replaced her with a another clone as well and I think they are getting married soon... Surely ye jest...

Whom do you consider to be "more stable"... ...Watson or Rodgers?

Never happens. If anything, teams will start moving on from QB's way more quickly. There's some chatter that the Ravens are considering just that with Lamar Jackson...

He'll show up. Green Bay should sit tight... ...either play for the Packers or quit the game -- that's the choice they should force him to make.