NanuqoftheNorth

Everything Rhule isn't.

Reality

I thought the original plan under Rhule was to rebuild and that fans needed to be patient. It was going to take time. Next thing you know, Panthers are trading picks like playing cards and burning through cap space like there was no tomorrow. Rhule and company couldn't stick with their own plan for more than one season.

Every opposition fan seeing the Panthers on the their 2022 season schedule: That'll go in the win column!

I predict an all time record setting season with Rhule at the helm... 0-17

Was just thinking to myself the other day... Yeah, this team has really gone down hill these last few years; can't score, can't stop the run, often get blown out by the competition, rarely win a game, but at least there's one silver lining in all this, these buffoons haven't messed with our awesome uniforms!

I sat there thinking I feel like a bobble head, because every time he talks I'm just like nodding my head. He really has a lot of the same principles I do, and you can just tell. It's very obvious why he's been successful every place he's been." -- Marty Hurney talking about Matt Rhule

Rhule is in a no win situation of his own design. If he wins he loses and if he loses he loses. There will be no happy ending for Rhule in Carolina.

Hmm, might be the reason why none of the head coaches at risk were fired on Monday. No point if your candidates won't interview until their season has concluded.

I can't help but believe a more experienced HC would have been able to talk Tepper off the ledge when it comes to frittering away cap space and draft picks on backup QBs in the middle of a supposed team rebuilding project. For whatever reason Rhule wasn't able to do that and now the team finds itself in a bigger hole than they started with at the QB position.

Technically you are right. Hurney vs Newsome Not a hard decision.

Quinn was a great DC in Seattle. Wouldn't have an issue with him holding the same title in Carolina. Not interested as a HC.

Yeah, four years in, does Tepper really want to put his trust in a first year GM to find the Panthers next HC? Sounds like a recipe for disaster. I'd be much more comfortable relying on the knowledge of a well regarded former NFL team executive, someone like Ozzie Newsome.

How large a role did Fitterer have in deciding Panthers draft priorities, free agency and giving Robby his new contract? That would be very helpful information when trying to determine his future w/the organization. I also have concerns about any GM candidate who would accept an offer knowing they'd be playing second fiddle to the HC. It just doesn't seem like a situation highly sought after GM candidates would agree to. Another area of concern: The Seahawks have been on a steady decline for several years now. One of their biggest problems has been the offensive line. Another problem is Seattle's bad habit of wasting valuable draft picks on trades that don't pan out. When the Panthers were searching for someone talented enough to promote into their GM position, I'm not sure Seattle was the best place to look. Finally, who hired Fitterer? Was that Rhule's call? A reason for concern as well/look at Matt's coaching staff. All things considered, I'd reluctantly give Scott Fitterer the benefit of the doubt for now since we have so little to go on. The optimist in me says he could be a diamond in the rough.

Matt Rhule might as well be rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

Matt Rhule has certainly made a VISIBLE difference when it comes to Panthers fans lack of enthusiasm for their favorite team.

Perhaps. Maybe I'm somewhat jaded, but the Panthers organization could put all the speculation to rest by releasing a short statement saying Matt Rhule will be back in 2022. That they've chosen not to do that suggests to me Rhule's job is still in limbo.

Win or lose, Dave Tepper shouldn't be basing his decision to keep or fire Rhule on the outcome of these last two games. If Dave is, he is doing it wrong.

Dave has one job as owner of the Carolina Panthers. Hire a competent individual to run his football franchise. Four years and counting, not sure when or if that's gonna happen. TL/DR: No

I believe you are right. Well said.

Still trying to figure out how this happened.

It would be poetic justice if we could deal him to the Jets and get our picks back. Nah, I like CMC too much for that.

I hear you, I'm just holding out hope that because Tepper hasn't made any public statement in support of Matt, he is seriously considering firing the guy. Granted, it would best to get a jump on the rest of the league in searching for a new coach. Since no other teams (Jags being the exception for obvious reasons) have fired their coach the consensus among the owners may be early termination isn't worth the trouble. The Panthers seem to be in the worst possible position with a coaching staff that is uniquely unqualified and potentially unwilling to take over if Rhule doesn't coach the last two games of the season. The potential for a bigger clown show than the one we have at the moment is real.

Once upon a time, not so long ago, Panthers fans aspired to no longer being mediocre! Our dreams have finally come true! Moral of the story: Be careful what you wish for.

John and Pat speaking in glowing terms about the accomplishments of a very young Panthers franchise. JR and company really had their act together those first few years, then it all went off the rails rather quickly.