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Everything posted by Stingray3030
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The man has been a clear WR1 when he is on the field - only question is health. If TMJ and Mingo are even just decent and Chark is healthy this offense is gonna be productive. People are sleepin on us waaaaaay too much.
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Have to agree that watching film there is no question who the better guy is right now - Scoot clearly has the "IT" factor to be a superstar....the NBA is all about Superstars. Miller is the better fit, but that is a distant 2nd in priority....2 guard teams can absolutely dominate.
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I hope you all are right - but I don't think there are enough throws going around for him. So let's try this. What do you predict for 2023 for these guys: Thielen - 67 REC, 820yds Chark - 45 REC, 660yds Hurst - 55 REC, 550yds TMJ - 35 REC, 500yds Mingo - 30 REC, 390yds RB's - 50 REC, 400yds Other TE's and WR - 50REC - 500yds Reason I say this is that I don't think people realize how hard it will be for TMJ to break out unless there are significant injuries given the stable around him.
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Yep
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Sorry to be long winded - but I know the "X", "Z", and "slot" is the position on a given play and not the player....just clarifying when I say a slot guy I mean a slot style guy....not just a guy who runs from the slot position.
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OK let me clarify The "X" receiver is typically your #1 guy - tops in snap counts, spends a large amount of time on the outside but also a great deal, often more snaps in the slot. The "Z" receiver is most often the burner on the team - often but not always the 2nd receiver and can also line up outside or in the slot - sometimes the 2nd most snaps sometimes 3rd The "slot" receiver is most often only in on a 3-receiver set. This player is usually a swiss army knife of routes and spends the majority of time inside. They are only used when the 1st or 2nd receiver isn't occupying the position unless your team is based around a top slot guy like Hill, Edelman. Point being it isn't about how many snaps you run from the position, it is about the ability to run the routes. TMJ plays like an "X" - he isn't crazy fast and is primarily used on the sideline - he doesn't get amazing separation either. He doesn't play the middle of the field much either - not yet anyway. Guess who that sounds like.....MINGO. Thielen has been an "X" receiver most of his career - but he runs every route and gets some of the best separation in the league - so they use him in the slot alot. Most "X" receivers that are best in the league do that. But they aren't really "slot" receivers. Trust slots like Deebo, Samuel, Hill is what I mean. TMJ is gonna have to fight against Theilen and Mingo for that
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I don't think many see Tremble as the starting TE - he has been a FB/TE hybrid and that is where I think he will be for his career. Redzone target maybe and short yardage check down, but not 1st option receiving. Honestly that is the only reason Ian Thomas is on the roster before we signed Hurst - to be the top receiving TE (scary thought). Only reason Thomas is still on the roster now is because cutting him saved us nothing and would hurt the cap, and no one wants to trade for him. Hurst is on a 3-yr deal - he will get the vast majority of TE receiving plays barring injury. TMJ - as much as I want to believe, he has a tough road this season - Mingo is gonna be a 4-yr contract, Theilen is 3-yr, Chark is 1-yr.....and right now he is gonna be behind all 3 of those if Mingo is even reasonably good. Chark and Theilen are the clear starters right now, and Shi or Mingo probably the slot - TMJ is just not good enough in the slot to start there. I think he is in for rotations a good bit and redzone with his height, but won't get 40 targets. Barring injury who is he gonna take snaps from? I love the predictions - I hope you are right - but there is very little reason to believe it given the reality of the guys in front of them. I agree the Rhule era probably held them down - and the QB play - but unless this team spreads the ball around to 6-7 guys consistently I don't see them getting the targets. - Too many other guys who will be on the field with something to prove.
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I will never understand opinions like this....so his impact didn't produce stats - or wins apparently as we had a losing season 2/4 years. Also the league didn't think he was even top 3 in his Conference cause he only made 1 Pro Bowl during that. So if he doesn't have stats....and he doesn't make the Pro Bowl....and we don't win the majority of our games in half the seasons....and his defense during that span was top 15 three times.....how is our QB top 5? Insane But you know who was top 5? Luke....Pro Bowl every season during that, All-pro first team 3 times, his side of the ball top 15 three times.....THAT is a GOAT.
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Met Rashad at Training Camp 2 years ago. Gave us a shoutout for my son - so incredibly nice of him. Followed the podcast ever since!
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So much smoke....if you knew your choice you would toss another log on the fire.
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That is not at all true - we have renegotiated, cut, and traded everything just have what we have now and enough to sign the draft class....there is nothing left on our end. Arizona and Nuk are in full control....unless he is willing to take a pay cut or Ariz pay his salary as I said there is no way. "They'll find a way" is not real.
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Sadly we can't afford him unless they take on a big portion of his contract.....due $19M
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Panthers sign Bengals TE Hayden Hurst
Stingray3030 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
He was around 13-15 statistically and missed 4 games.....in a full season he is potentially a top 10 TE. Keep in mind he also played in Cinn where they had 3 of the top 35 WR's in the league, so targets weren't easy to come by. -
Panthers sign Bengals TE Hayden Hurst
Stingray3030 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
At pick #39 we may be able to get a stud WR, but having all these other holes filled means we could definitely trade 39 & another pick to move back into the 1st round and grab one....I think there are 4-5 #1 WR in this draft and many could be there in the 20's. If we sign Theilen & Jamaal Williams, then grab a guy like Zay Flowers, JSN, Johnston.....imagine. -
Panthers sign Bengals TE Hayden Hurst
Stingray3030 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Ya know - last time we picked up a TE in his 5th year who was drafted in the 1st round and had similar productivity he ended up with back to back to back 1000yd seasons......interesting -
Panthers showing interest in RB Jamaal Williams
Stingray3030 replied to Saca312's topic in Carolina Panthers
You directly quoted me lol - guess that was confusing -
Panthers showing interest in RB Jamaal Williams
Stingray3030 replied to Saca312's topic in Carolina Panthers
My comments were 100% complimentary - no idea what you mean -
Panthers showing interest in RB Jamaal Williams
Stingray3030 replied to Saca312's topic in Carolina Panthers
They guy averaged 4.1/carry - fewer big runs makes this more impressive. The TD's are a nice bonus meaning tough at the GL, but he had 262 carries - that is a starter to pair with Chuba....love it. For a decent price I take this all day. -
Some of y'all are funny - a 2nd string QB is very important - it is both a mentor AND a potential starter. You can't act like just because we have McCown we don't need a vet backup to mentor - we do. You can't act like we don't need a potential starter - we do....hello....Lisfranc in preseason.... The goal is to get both without spending much....personally I think it is likely Wentz or Brissett or Mariota...all depends on their thoughts of trying to still be starters.
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It's called Incredible Flexibility people.....and this Defense is becoming ELITE....get ready...
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Tony Pauline: CJ Stroud or Anthony Richardson
Stingray3030 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
at pick #1 there is no conversation except Stroud or Young.....any other thought is ridiculous....awful....horrible....pick your word for insanely stupid -
I am with you on with you on everything except that this is a very weak WR class - Johnston, Addison, Smith-Njigba, Flowers, Downs, Dell are all very good and should be gone by pick 50. If we get any of the first 5 I mentioned they are solid potential #1's.
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What Veteran QB Do We Sign to Mentor the Rookie QB?
Stingray3030 replied to tukafan21's topic in Carolina Panthers
The best QB mentor we can pick up IMO is Wentz....not because we want him on the field, like at all, but because he knows Reich's expectations and can be that 4th voice behind Reich, Brown, and McCown to physically show the new QB on the field during practice. And he is a decent enough backup in case of injury...and should be cheaper than most.