Stingray3030

My point wasn't that he is giving up - that is actually completely missing my point. I am saying he might not be giving up he might be moving on - aka going through the motions while his agent finalizes a move. He isn't going to show anyone anything in these OTA's....any team that is going to sign an underperforming 4th year TE with 3 years of film isn't going to see something in an OTA that makes them go after him. The trade won't be for much either way

I totally get your comment but the reality is people in his situation typically have one of 2 reactions - step up and give it all to compete for THIS job, or start focusing effort on your exit strategy. The guy saw us sign his replacement in free agency and then draft another TE/FB hybrid in the 3rd round - it appears he is moving on based on the observations. I wouldn't necessarily consider it work ethic or attitude - maybe just finishing up one job while focusing on preparing for the next....not saying it is respectable but might not be a sign of long term character

From a Madden perspective that is a great idea - the game basically just takes skills and assumes the guy can play the position and apply them. In reality I don't know if he knows how to play FS - it is very different than CB. He has the speed no doubt but instinct and development takes time he hasn't spent.....he would need to start 2 years ago.

I hate to say it but I don't know that anything outside of a monumental improvement will save Thomas' career with the Panthers at this point. Didn't we sign Dan Arnold to replace him and then sign Tremble as the 2nd TE/FB? With McCaffrey, Anderson, Moore, Moore, Arnold, and Marshall getting 98% of the passes I can't see him making a difference.

It has all basically been said, but he needs to be traded from both the business and personal perspective. His professional relationship is already damaged by the comments we know about (internally who knows how much more has been discussed). Even if he stays there is slim to no chance he has the drive to overcome and beat out Darnold. He needs another change where he can move on. From a business side we HAVE to trade him - and likely still eat a large chunk of salary. Any viable picks, players we get in return and money less than 20-mil is a win over cutting. But I agree it is likely after the draft - at this point waiting a few weeks hurts no one and the draft could dramatically change a team's perspective or value of Teddy.

I don't think there is any chance we go all offense in the draft - makes no sense considering our needs. We still need 2 DB's and a DT or 2 - having bodies in positions doesn't mean we are set. And these guys are all signing 1-2 yr deals. It all depends on the QB choice as everyone else said as well...if it is DeShaun then no way we go all offense. I would hope we get 2 OL, 1-2 DL, 2 DB and a WR or TE - but of course FA isn't over yet. I do like how this defense is forming up though - FINALLY might have a nasty LB core after losing Luke and TD. We might actually be able to stop the run now.