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I'm not saying I think Fitt is the best or even very good - I am simply saying y'all love to point out a few players that didn't go as hoped and ignore the ones that were fine or upside. Those 4 picks so far are Mingo, DJ, and trading up for Bryce....if you are calling them a loss at this point you are just irrational - 1 more pick next year Riddick had a great year - we just couldn't afford to pay $15M a year to him and sign everyone else I just listed DeShawn cause he is a nice value vet pickup - our defense has looked great Shy Tuttle at $19.5 is right at his market value - $6.3M a year Y'all still ignore the fact that this is what was available for the money we have. We had some contracts to get out of and a TON of upgrades needed. AND we didn't have the single most important piece of all - a QB. Rebuilds take time and pain.

5 injuries in 2 years.....he came back during the season 3 times in 2 years.....yet he was laying out? I don't get you guys.... https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/christian-mccaffrey/7750

Miles was a Pro Bowl RB at 26yr old - we have him for a reasonable contract - not to mention we have an out after next year if needed and very low cap hits the year after if he sucks. It is a very good contract for what he is and for our future. He was one of the best options available. Clearly I meant DeShawn Williams - I keep doing that for some reason You are really blaming Fitt for Robbie's mental collapse? The man was 27 coming off an 1100yd season - 15th in the league. I guess we shoulda known he was going to lose his friggin mind? You didn't mention this but the McCaffrey deal. I agree CMC is clearly a 1st round pick, but we got 4 picks (2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th) which is almost the most a RB has been traded for in value. And you see how the league values RB's these days. Guys like Cook, JT, Jacobs....look at what they are worth to teams and we got 4 fairly high picks. That is far from a bad deal. Y'all need to get over your 20/20 hindsight - at the time most of these deals make complete sense and most GM's would do the same thing.

100% - you guys act like there were 100 Pro Bowlers available and we just suck at signing them....like injuries to draft picks can be predicted.

Gotta love posting a cherry picked list of transactions like that is all he has done Should we ignore the Free Agent signings that have been good? Thielen, Hekker, Riddick, Chark, Sanders, Luvu, Bell, Damien Williams, Bozeman We also traded Robbie Anderson for 2 picks - wasn't worth $20, and traded Arnold and a 5th rounder for Henderson - we won that deal with Arnold doing nothing and CJ at least a starter at the nickel Our drafts were trash for a decade outside of Round 1 - that wasn't all Fitterer either. Clearly he hasn't been the best, but he has done alot of good. Unfair to act like this falls on him - especially when he has a non-football owner and a moron head coach until this year to appease.

Maybe - I think it depends on a few things like how Burns plays and if the Bengals get their act together. If they return to form the pick is lower but they would wanna keep Higgins if they have a SB run this year. But would be great

Most of this thread is ridiculous - but this I agree with. Higgins and a 1st round pick would be outstanding. Then get another O-lineman with the pick cause ours is trash!

How about 2:01 when Mingo dropped it in his hands, 0:12 when he audibled and threw a side-arm to Thielen and the O-line stood in the way, 0:32 when he threw a dart between 2 guys perfectly and was dropped, 0:46 where he lofted one to Thielen that should have been PI or catch if he stopped for the ball like he should You could even show the 2 sacks where he held the ball too long - that is at least on him - but you'd have to ignore the 5-6 throw always or completions he had to make running for his life on our horrible line. But no - you pointed at 3 plays that were bad throws out of 33....yeah how horrible.

You are INSANE - the first one he got hit as he threw clearly, 2nd one he threw across his body on the run and put it on the guys hands broken up by good defense, 3 & 4 were overthrows by a little on timing not horrible but on him I guess even though he had a guy on him the first one, the 2:40 was a clear PI that was called!, 3:03 was his fault - indecision, and 3:21 was a covered receiver he tried to give a chance near the end of the game None of that is any different that EVERY QB in the league....you cherry picked 7 plays out of 33 and only 3 were on him....You'll also notice almost all of them were to Mingo and none were to a receiver who had any separation. THAT is on the WR

If you gave us Kelce, MVS, and Juju we would look completely different.....they aren't the best trio in the league but all 3 are better than anyone on our squad. Our problem isn't 1 thing but it is about 30% receivers, 30% play calling, 30% O-line, and 10% rookie QB.

Y'all are nuts man....this team literally doesn't have a legit #1 or #2 receiver on the squad. Chark is the closest thing to a #2 we have and he has been hurt. Thielen is a mentoring high end #3. TMJ hasn't gotten it together in 3 years.....Mingo is a rookie and looks like it....Shenault is a hybrid we don't know how to use. Show me a QB who has this situation and produces? We have the worst WR room in the NFL and it isn't close.

top 5 on OUR defense he is....Horn, Chinn, Burns, Brown, Shaq, Luvu is our best pretty clearly....I guess you could put him 6th? Maybe Bell?

I haven't said anything to you man - you replied to the wrong post

Sadly with Horn and Shaq out that is an unfair statement - go take 2 of the top 5 defensive players off any team and you get the same result

There are MASSIVE factors that have hurts our offense - you are downplaying that man - we have a gaping hole on the blind side - we have at best a 3rd WR and no 1st or 2nd - AND we don't even try to throw downfield so the defense sits in 1 safety and blitzes. You could put Brady in our situation and I guarantee his numbers would be poor. Again Bryce is in the 2nd game of his career with one of the worst offensive situations possible yet his numbers look similar to Fields or Watson....he has been decent is all I am saying. I gave specific details how. Your prerogative if you can't see it

People also ignoring we have been without Horn the entire game - huge loss of our #1 CB which can make a difference with Chinn's usage

His play hasn't been bad - made a few mistakes sure - like most QB's. But overall he has been accurate, made the right reads, and been fairly mobile. He has played better than any QB we have had in years. But the play calling has been awful and obvious....his receivers are not getting open....the O-line especially Christianson and Ikey have been bad...Sanders has been meh and barely a receiving help. What should he have done with that different?

You aren't honestly putting our passing issues on Bryce's height or his play right? Ridiculous

I would love to see the list of WR's or RB's who were available for less money and are better than who we signed...I'll wait....if there is a list it will be very short And don't act like we had picks or players to trade either....be realistic...

I do not think the deals that were made is the main reason we need a season or 2 more to be a contender. This team was already a dozen or more players away from that since 2017 - with Luke retiring early, Cam flaming out, and the end of the Rivera era. Rhule certainly made it worse but Rivera had back to back losing seasons before he left. We needed a complete rebuild with little to no assets for Fitt to use. Fitt has only been here 2 seasons also - both the 2021 and 2022 drafts were very good Horn over Surtain isn't a mistake yet, just injury issues. Horn has been outstanding when on the field. Corral isn't turning into a starter yet, but his cost was great. I agree the Darnold deal was an overpay, but worth the risk when you had NO QB worth starting and no FA market. Personally I think Fitt has done great, I am happy to keep rolling with him.

This also ignores the 4 draft picks we acquired in the McCaffrey trade....not only did we use those picks to offset some of your trades above, but it will free up a great deal of cap space in the future - he will count $14M against their cap each of the next 2 years. Not necessarily disagreeing with your comments - but this is fair to add - it isn't quite as bad as the above implies.

Considering both had fewer than 10 drop backs this is hardly data worth comparing....no statistical significance. But Bryce looked better clearly

I'm not sleepin on him at all...I didn't mention him because to me he is a lock at our 2nd WR spot and will be very good....the other 3 are the question marks.

Oh - well.....I'm sure Bryce will just throw the receivers open.....we are good...

Not a big deal - this isn't the CMC offense anymore. He is here to run and block....catching 30 passes is a bonus