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Bottom 5 teams still have Pro Bowl players to match up against. You absolutely still see progress. You really need to disappear and drop this. Doubling down is insane.

This is such a stupid take - why does this even still have a thread? How are you supposed to get better as a team? As a franchise? Deliberately lose games but run the plays in a way so you still look like you COULD have done it at a high level if you wanted to? THEN when you have 3-4 years worth of 2-win seasons and secretly successful drafts that look like complete failures with guys missing Pro Bowls, bonuses, endorsements - your franchise losing millions of dollars in revenue due to sucking, you suddenly FLIP ON THE WINNING SWITCH and give everyone a James Doakes moment? You cannot see progress if you play to fail - period. You cannot build a culture by losing - period. You cannot keep your job by losing - period. You cannot attract talent by losing - period. Are we done here yet?

Brooks is likely to be very limited the rest of the year. I don't think we will see enough from him to judge his long term value. Plus we still need a 2nd RB regardless - the 2025 FA class is gonna be slim pickins compared to last year.

I think you also have to take into account that we have no clue about Brooks yet, so 4-yrs covers us if he is a bust without giving us an issue in 2 years to fix. Plus that will mean he will need a new deal again as soon as Brooks needs one, so if Brooks is a stud you don't have a lingering expensive contract for Chuba. All around seems sensible to me

Chuba was still on a rookie deal so he was only making a little over $1M a year

Y'all need some perspective - the man signed an $8.3M a year deal. That makes him the 9th highest paid RB in the league. Is he not the 9th best RB in the league who isn't on a rookie deal? By all means please give me the list of who is paid less that is better and NOT on a rookie deal? I'll give you Derrick Henry and Aaron Jones (who will be higher this offseason and is only lower due to injury history). In 2 years Chuba will be the 15th highest paid. Plus 15th is only $1.5M less. What exactly do you think we are gonna do to change this roster significantly with $1.5M a year? That only buys us like 2 games from an Offensive Lineman... This is a solid contract for a 25-yr old RB doing what he is doing. And for those saying "why did we draft a RB in the 2nd round and do this?" We are building the next 4-6 years - not making a 1-yr run to the SB. Short-sighted leadership is what got us into this situation. This guarantees us a solid starting RB for the next 4 years in this system at a mid-range price. With literally 15-20 upgrades needed to be competitive we have 1 less to worry about overpaying for at an significant amount.

Very much what I read - no one wanted him bad enough to pay much. They didn't see him as much of an impact.

Report I read said the deal we got was easily the best offer available because teams knew he wanted out and had no intention to resign. We had 0 leverage for a guy looking for a contract at 28/29 as a #2 WR. Mingo might not ever be good but younger, cheaper, no attitude issues, no contract. Makes sense

It makes perfect sense - we would draft him #1 overall. He is not worth the #1 overall pick. Therefore we would be overpaying. Pretty clear.

Funny how you answered your own question.

Sadly I think we might overpay for it though - like we usually do.

Shaq has been a good leader but not an amazing LB - this has been a significant weakness since Luke and TD left other than Luvu. That is why we have been one of the worst teams vs the run the last 3-4 years. But edge is currently a bigger need IMO. Both are a huge concern.

We have no pass rushers - no linemen, no LB's, no secondary - none. Why blitz with ineffective people and leave ineffective people behind trying to cover? You will just get burned by slants and runs even more so than we already do. We are so bad at run defense we can't afford to miss by blitzing.

The answer is always "it depends on the contracts" - good news is RB's aren't super expensive and Sanders will be cut next year regardless, so Chuba is probably gonna be a resign. MJ has been decent and shouldn't be too expensive. Diontae might want too much money but he has clearly been worth the resign if he has reasonable expectations. I much more worried about what we do for LB's, DE's, T's, and C next year.

Agreed - Wonnum @ $6M could be outstanding. People crying about Jewell but the man is the 47th highest paid LB....experience in the system and leadership at only $6M? I'll take it. Nijman should be a good one also for depth and Jordan Fuller is solid. I really don't understand any Morgan hate at this point. This BS about Frazier over Brooks is only because Brooks hasn't played yet. If he comes in and looks like a top 10 RB like most people expect there won't be any reasonable complaints.