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I hope so, results have been bad so far. I'm not really sure where the disconnect between the drafting and signing of players and them not working in our ( at least offensive ) scheme comes from but it needs to be rooted out. Coaching sucks we know that, they are gone. Scouting and drafting also suck, they should be gone but we will see. I think Fitts analytic leaning process need to be funneled through a true GM who is more pure football. It's always been that way with football....it just isn't baseball. Its a gladiator sport and numbers cannot tell the whole story on a player period.

I am willing to give Bryce until about a quarter through next season before making a final judgement. This year we all see that the team and staff around him are not working and we see he has some flaws that could become his undoing. Let's see what a off season and a new staff can do. By October next year we will know if he is the guy or not, can't do anything but wait until then.

I just hope this is rock bottom. I don't see how it can get any worse then this no matter who is here next year. I guess the defense is going to get worse once Burns is gone. A note : I don't think any of these firings were bad ( I don't know anything about soccer ). Rivera had to go, he still isn't a winning coach. Rhule sucked and Reich did too. I am glad he got rid of Reich early rather then see himself prove he isn't a good HC again next year.

If I see that MFer I'll tell him straight up. You want the fans and the locker room hyped and behind the team? Greg Olsen is that dude.

That's what I'm saying! We need a leader after all these plain toast HC we've had. Team is SOFT, directionless. We need the guy everyone wants to play for period. We need someone who is looked at as the man in the building. I bet you he would have an OC and DC who knew what they were doing. None one would be playing soft. AND he's one of our own? Who knows exactly what keep pounding means in the building and to the fans?

He is a crazy SOB, but maybe that's what we need.

No thanks, I want to be able to root for this team.

Friday got me feeling hype. I'M ALL IN ON THE OLSEN TRAIN! Calling it now, that's my HC!

Bring him in for an interview at least. Greg knows what he's about, he knows football. Coaches son, undisputed leader. He is smart enough to surround himself with the right people, and I believe Olsen definitely knows the right people. I'd be all in! F U C K IT!

I mean....all we can really do is give him time or find another team lol. Let's hope 3rd times a fuging charm.

Do you think Norv was down there coaching Cam on his mechanics on the day to day? That was the QB coach.....you are being obtuse for no reason. Do you think all 32 NFL teams hire QB coaches for no reason when they have an OC?

I feel that... I wouldn't call that sabotage though. That implies he did it with malicious intent. I just think he's not that good of an OC and has no flexibility. He fuged it up but he didn't sabotage it.

Right.....my point still stands. They finally decided to do some actually QB coaching with Cam and it made a huge difference. It was just too late, his should was a big hit away from blowing up. Like what are you not understanding here? Which brings us back to the original point.....QB coaches do matter and make a difference. Which you seemed to disagree with.

There is no proof anywhere that Young wasn't the consensus #1. Anything posted about that is pure speculation. Plus that is stupid, Reich would know sabotaging Young would sabotage his job here.

I brought Cam up. 100% it was known that they really just let Cam be Cam. Which was amazing, I love the dude. Me a literal grown man who had tears in his eyes after Cam came back and scored in Arizona a few years ago. So none of this is diminishing Cam. If everyone remembers he actually got some coaching on his mechanics and fundamentals before the 2018 season. This was the first time they tried actually using the QB coach with Cam and not just having it be his buddy. I believe it was a shorter, tighter throwing motion and really working on setting his feet. That was right before his best career completion percentage and I think he was like 15-2 TD/INT. It 100% made him a better QB and he was on pace to have his best "traditional" QB season until his shoulder gave out. I remember the details homie, I ain't talking bullshit here. No one is trying to trash Cam. Ron Rivera and his staff did not want to challenge Cam at all on his mechanics until the older Turner came in and they actually worked with him to improve. Cam Newton is the proof in the pudding that you need a good QB coach to get the most out of your QB. Someone has to guide them and correct them.

100% those guys need to be simpatico. We need 2 fresh pair of eyes that can evaluate this mess and have no ties to anything before it. Correct me if I'm wrong, the GM usually brings in the HC ( with owner input ), so why have we been shying away from that? There is too much corporate America through patterns floating around BOA.

He let hate cloud his reading comprehension.

Just sending this out to the world : FIRE FITT!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

Bro.....come on. You can't just believe everything. They've won 1 game. Of course the vibes are off and tensions are up. Not even saying he's wrong about how people have felt since Tepper got here but....everything else is just the exact right things to say to get rage.

I want to know how the hell the chef knows about the football coaching staff hiring process. and who wanted who LOL. Bunch of bullshit.

He isn't sold on Bryce period. That's not going to change unless Bryce produces. Most people can see that the team is so trash you can't judge him without getting him into a better scenario ASAP, but some have decided his fate. Not saying he will, because fug if I know, but I wonder if that same "he's too small" energy stays if he balls out next year? He sure as hell has shown the be durable at least.

100% it was known that they really just let Cam be Cam. Which was amazing, I love the dude. If everyone remembers he actually got some coaching on his mechanics and fundamentals. I believe it was a shorter, tighter throwing motion and really working on setting his feet. That was right before his best career completion percentage and I think he was like 15-2 TD/INT. It 100% made him a better QB and he was on pace to have his best "traditional" QB season until his shoulder gave out. I remember the details homie, I ain't talking bullshit here. No one is trying to trash Cam. Ron Rivera and his staff did not want to challenge Cam at all on his mechanics until the older Turner came in and they actually worked with him to improve. Cam Newton is the proof in the pudding that you need a good QB coach to get the most out of your QB. Someone has to guide them and correct them.

You seemed to have missed the most important difference between Johnson and McCown. The years of coaching experience.....like WHAT? QB coach doesn't matter? Who do you think is working with these guys? Just because until now we just let Cam do Cam and then hired a bunch of bums doesn't mean its not an important position throughout the NFL.

Yo at this point lets do it.

For real, people just making up poo. Deuce did a terrible job coaching up our RBs. There was no improvement. He couldn't train these guys to hit the few holes we did make. He got a lot of hype coming out of Hard Knocks for talking a lot. Josh McCown was a reach at QB coach. He was a great back up and helped a lot of young QBs from that perspective but that is not the same thing as a coach at all. Look at that! Easy enough to explain that they were just bad at their jobs! ORRRRR we can believe that Josh McCown had a stack of love letters for CJ Stoud that made fun of Bryce Young. Tepper and Tabor found them in his desk and fired him.