mrcompletely11

3rd is for a starting safety IMO.

Yep, I am not sure why this is so hard to understand. The whole damn staff was there to watch him and that is telling.

Slater is a master technician with a mean streak. Pretty sure the knock on Darrisaw is he plays half ass a good bit of the time and lacks that killer instinct.

I doubt the kid is that good where he can come from a run heavy offense in HS, only play 17 games at the FCS level (basically not playing in a year) and A) pick up an NFL style offense B)get enough reps to understand the speed of the game and C)learn how to read defenses at the NFL level. Not saying he cannot learn that but you are not going to play him if you are smart his rookie year, then do you ease him in year 2 or make him the automatic starter and treat that as his rookie season. So year 3 at best is when the proverbial light bulb goes off. That my friend is an investment that Rhule and co dont want to make. Now if you think he can start his rookie year then we are going have to agree to disagree because that would be a disaster.

I am way more comfortable in saying the likelihood that Sewell/Slater bust is exponentially smaller Lance busting. Regarding Fields, I just dont know.

I guess you can at least argue Fields but if he does drop then the value of pick 8 probably close to doubles what it normally would be. I would make Denver throw in their 1rst and maybe 2nd to move up one spot.

I've said all week that its brutally apparent that the staff doesnt want to invest the ungodly time in trying to develop Lance. Its going to take years to get him up and running and seeing how Brady probably will be gone in the very near future, its just not worth it no matter the upside.

You think. But we definitely without any reasonable doubt select a LT at 8. Why continue to kick the can down the road? And we aint drafting Lance at 8

So I get the 2022 2nd and 4rth pick. But what does the 6th this year do? Its basically a worthless selection. Why even throw that in?

Perfect

So it takes a top 3 qb in the league to overcome all of those variables. Got it. And look at the super bowl Mahoomes looked ordinary running for his life.

How is Penei Sewell at 8 only a B+ in that draft? Shouldnt that be an A+++++++

My dream draft

What qb in the nfl could thrive in that situation?

We dont know that for a fact. What qb's in the nfl now could develop with these factors against you? Weird injuries, terrible coaching, terrible oline, terrible weapons and thrown straight to the wolves at the age of 20 from the jump with no acclimation period. 56 starting lineman in 3 years.

I doubt he slips by ATL, Cincy and Miami. Pray its a qb heavy draft with trade ups, pray the skill positions go early (chase and Pitts) and maybe we get lucky Sewell drops to us

fuging Christ with all of these threads. There is at least 3 existing this could have gone in

Lot of dumb newbs coming out of the woodwork

Who was he throwing to? Who was calling plays? Who was blocking for him? Context matters

Sam Darnold has had 56 different starting olinemen in his 3 years. Good Lord I actually feel bad for this kid. He had no way of succeeding

keep digging, this is getting comical now

Weird injuries, terrible coaching, terrible oline, terrible weapons and thrown straight to the wolves at the age of 20 from the jump with no acclimation period. The more I look into this the more I think this is a slam dunk.

Also saying bridgewater was better without looking at the oline and weapons and scheme is just lazy

Would you rather trade a couple of firsts to move up from Lance or Fields? Darnold had weird injuries, terrible coaching, terrible oline, terrible weapons and thrown straight to the wolves at the age of 20 from the jump with no acclimation period. I think a fresh start is going to be just what he needs

He only had a clean pocket on 23 attempts, so that initial statement is a bit overstated