mrcompletely11

damnit that hurts

So are you saying the staff knew Willis and Howell were more ready to play then corral but if we develop MC he will be better then both? Because thats kindof what it feels like you are saying in a round a bout way. If thats the case then I am not sure why we are trading draft capital for someone like that when in hindsight it appears we simply could have waited and drafted him

I dont think its that easy to simply "coach up" and develop them. Just like your last post says its incredibly rare a guy past the top 40 (not sure why you picked 40) to hit. If developing a qb was a thing more teams would be doing it as good franchise qbs are the rarest things on earth For the most part you either have it or you dont. This is in no way degrading Corral just saying in general. Scott was there when Wilson came in and literally just took the starting job so who knows, or at least I would hope he knows what it looks like and if MC has it he needs to be turning the screws on Rhule

jake led a second half comeback in his first appearance. Dude showed moxie from the get go

and his head

I mean is mac jones more talented then Corral?

he had one really really bad play, so bad it may get baker killed but the rest he was an animal. I will go and rewatch his snaps at some point in the week but from what I watched he as a mauler

You are making my point about allen, even if he wasnt ready to play in his first year he did, and not only that he built on it Mahomes could have played in his first season without a doubt, he had the best qb coach in probably history. I am saying using rodgers as an example is extreme as it was 20 years ago and the brett farve angle but the larger point is the vast majority of nfl qbs that are good simply came in and started pretty much from teh jump. as to your last point, after this training camp and after this game I have zero faith rhule knows what the fug he is doing

we won the game

I wish we had media members with a nutsack that would grill rhule with some hard questions.

Nah I still think we end right where vegas has us at and we have a shot at one of the top guys We are still a couple of drafts away from being a good team. As we saw today our depth is LOL funny

thats the concerning part for me How the fug are willis and howell (fug it add ridder to the list) looking light years better then MC. Not just in regards to this game but in practice as well

not being overly critical because I did want him in the draft but he has to correct a few things, the stupid ball slap he does before he throws is crazy and he has a wild tendency to put touch on the pass only to have it become a duck. But i was impressed with his scrambling and decision making today. Like I said at worst he is a good back at best..........we fuged up

Allen played out of the gate Mahomes could have played his rookie year, there are articles during it which the vets had their jaws on the ground with what he was doing Rodgers was damn near 20 years ago there are exceptions to the rule but mainly if you can play get your ass out there and play. Do yourself a favor and go down the nfl qb roster and see how many started out of the gate in their first year

what stats back up that baker is a top 10 qb?

so the cliff notes version of your post is : rhule is a moron I can get on board with that

I think if we have our usual bout with injuries and with rhule coaching we def are eyeballing a top 10 pick

preach it Corral wins with his head.......literally

stop with this stupid bullshit, baker is in no way shape or form a top 10 qb. Top 15ish at best

yep thats been posted on here before, its sheer analytics, sure there are exceptions to the rule but for the most part draft, play them, if they can play they can play. If not its obvious. The numbers back this up

IF he isnt even good enough for 3rd string reps then wtf are we doing giving up draft capital for him when the entire qb crop was dropping like rocks in the draft? Like i have said before, when howell was there in the 5th for us we should have loaded the qb room with cheap rookie prospects and let them fight it out.

I feel the same way but for better or worse the clock is ticking on MC. My gut overreaction hot take after this game is we are still in the 7ish win neighborhood and the new staff will 110% go and get their guy next draft. I really want MC to work out but that fuse is lit

our 1s dominated? You sure you watched the right game? We gave up like 4 pressures in the first 13 plays. Our backups had no pass rush

how the fug does a 5th rounder look better then him and how the fug does Willis looked better then him? Seems like we are really doing something wrong here. And we gave up a fuging 3rd to get him. Not throwing in the towel on MC but when you look at the big picture something is off

If he is that far behind it does make you wonder how they evaluated him. Still dont think he is that bad, needs a better line and just more playing time. I suspect we see that on friday. No way we can keep feeding walker reps