PNW_PantherMan

The reality is that winning breeds success when it comes to a fervent fan base. The Patriots, Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, 49ers don’t have big fan bases because they have better fans. They have big fan bases because they WON. And they did it over years and years. Pull out the “fair weather fan” card all you want, but it’s just the reality of pro sports. Ill be a Panther fan for life, but nobody’s going to be excited about supporting a garbage organization. It’s still a little early to tell, but we’re getting close to the moment of truth with Tepper.

And what do you think is going to happen when Tepper demands a new stadium and he’s lost a bunch of fan support for fielding lousy teams?

They just moved two teams to LA and one to Las Vegas. What alternate universe do you live in?

If the PSL owners walk away we won’t have a team in Charlotte.

Also I’d just like to add this. If Green Bay is willing to trade Love for picks, it means he isn’t the answer. If Love was showing signs he was the next great QB, Rodgers would have been shipped off to the 49ers or Rams this past offseason. Instead, the Packers are hanging onto Rodgers for as long as he will stay there.

Giving up any draft resources for a QB like Jimmy G or Love would be awful. Neither of those guys are good enough to win a championship, so what’s the point? Jimmy is average and Love hasn’t shown any signs he’s an NFL starter. Just sign some veteran QB for cheap and keep Cam next year. Darnold is 18m no matter what, so he may as well be a backup on the roster next season.

Well then I guess we know Tepper is a lousy owner. No coach should be guaranteed 3 seasons. Why didn't Urban Meyer get 3 seasons? Steve Wilks? Freddie Kitchens? The list goes on. Tepper is a bad owner.

Skip Bayless isn't dumb. He puts on a show for views. It's like actually hating a heel in pro wrestling. You're kind of falling for it. But that being said, he's right. And I'm glad the Panthers are on blast now.

Good. Maybe the embarrassment will expedite Rhule's firing.

The defense is built to play with a lead but they’re paired with an anemic offense that’s allergic to points.

Perfect setup for the new coach if Rhule tanks next season. I can hear it now… With the 1st pick in the 2023 draft, the Carolina panthers select… Bryce Young.. Quarterback.. Alabama.

You’re right about an elite program being required but Steve Spurrier is a great example of this. He had success at Duke and went onto Florida. Granted that was 100 years ago and it’s one guy, but coaches who win at low tier programs get a shot to move up.

So the cardinals shouldn’t have fired Steve Wilks? The Browns shouldn’t have fired Freddie Kitchens? Two years isn’t enough time to evaluate a coach that’s showing some potential. Two years is more than enough time to identify a turd like Rhule.

I’m all for blowing it up to be honest. Trade CMC and Burns for picks. We need draft ammo to rebuild our offensive and defensive lines.

If you are the greatest coach in the history of football and you’re winning at Duke, you are going to get an opportunity at a school that could win a championship. Also Alabama isn’t an automatic ticket to a championship. They were not a great team when Saban took over, and they won’t be after he leaves. I’m not so sure about requiring a national championship to be interested in a college coach at the pro level. But Rhule didn’t beat anyone. For me, I just wouldn’t be interested in a head coach from the college ranks. NFL experience seems to win out vs purely college coaches.

Rhule shows low character with these jabs at certain players. What kind of culture is he building exactly?

Citation needed for this. I don't think this is the case at all. DT is a position where a player can have an impact immediately. At this rate, Derrick Brown will be 35 before he hits his prime. The more likely reality is he just isn't very good.

Matt Rhules philosophy on the offensive line is basically the opposite of money ball. Instead of finding a guy that’s usable in one position for a deal, he’s found guys that can suck in multiple positions and overpaid them. Matt Rhule does not understand how to build a winner at the NFL level.

I mean honestly how many star players do you think look at what Tepper and Rhule are doing and think "sign me up"? We love the team cause we can't help it. We're fans. But from the outside I can't imagine we look much different than the Texans.

Both of these defenses practicing the bend and also break philosophy.

Apparently it takes 3-5 years to rebuild an NFL team but the Chargers are 8-5 this year, after picking 1 spot ahead of us 2 drafts ago.

My personal theory is that Tepper is giving Rhule the end of the season to audition for next year. Thats part of why Cam was brought in and Joe Brady was fired. I'm guessing he's not on track to pass that audition, and will be fired after the season.

Damn the fullback is a beast!

Scary stuff with that injury. Didn't seem like his head hit the ground that hard, but I was worried as soon as I saw the position his arms were in.

I don't really care what week Rhule gets fired. But, if he gets another year then Tepper is officially a lousy owner in my book. If he trots out Rhule and Darnold again next year we are the new Bungles.