PNW_PantherMan

Man this whole situation jumped the shark a long time ago.

If the board falls off that hard after pick 5, we aren't going to be able to trade down very well. Just pick the best guy IMO.

I remember being disappointed we didn't get him.

Well it is going to be the magical 3rd year under Rhule's Jay-Z 7 year overnight success plan. I think that means we make it to the Sugar Bowl and get blown out. And then Rhule leaves for a higher paying job.

Agreed. Ian Thomas is a textbook definition of replacement level.

We can go lower.

"A win-win deal" Win win? For him and his agent maybe.

Not gonna lie, I'm starting to think of this clip when it comes to Fitterer's responsibilities. "Well I bring the paper from Matt Rhule's office to Samir's" "Couldn't Matt Rhule just tell Samir himself who to sign?"

Just let him walk. His highest graded ability is pass blocking... as a tight end.. Worthless.

This is why all that salary cap wizardry is plain stupid. You can move numbers around all you want, but when you are committing money to Ian Thomas, Sam Darnold, Robbie Anderson, Pat Elflein, etc it's useless. This is garbage roster building.

This was the logic for reaching on Slater last year, and it would have worked out in that case.

Exactly. 1 year ago he was ready to push all the chips to the middle of the table on Darnold, and now he wants nothing to do with him. What changed? Darnold looked the same as he always has.

But that's a re-run. We saw that last year.

Minshew was a no brainer move last offseason. Acquiring him cheaply would have made sense to backup Sam. In the event that Sam Darrnold didn't work out (who could've predicted that? ), Minshew was a decent enough alternative that cost almost nothing. Going into last season with no option besides Sam on the roster was just irresponsible.

What if this is just a power move to get Cousins to sign a team friendly extension. "Alright if you won't do it, we'll trade you to Carolina."

I agree. If he's Johnny Manziel then pick up the dice and roll again next year.

The 12-14 range IS mediocre. He put up big numbers. So what. That offense is absolutely stacked, and he has not shown the ability to win the big games. Trading assets to then pay a guy top 3 money to be a 12-14 QB is just madness. It's objectively bad.

I think it's a little concerning, but at the same time, I didn't get my head on straight until I was 26 or 27. It is kind of crazy to think that these guys hit the league at 20 or 21 years old. I would have definitely made some televised mistakes if it were me. It's hard to tell what he did exactly to set the official off. He was playing on that court last season, so maybe he made himself a bit too much at home on the sideline.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33329213/charlotte-hornets-rookie-james-bouknight-ejected-courtside-seat-uconn-men-basketball-game I didn't see a thread on this. I don't think I've ever seen a fan get ejected before. Apparently he just moved to the student section.

I've got to disagree here. I see this argument a lot, and I really don't understand it. If this was true, then we would see more players do well at the pro level than college, because they have better teammates. The best high school players stand out and get recruited by the best colleges. The best college players stand out and get drafted the highest. Good players on bad pro teams stand out too. It's mind boggling to me that people think a player is held back by playing at a lower level of play. If this were true, nobody would ever get out of minor league baseball or the NBA's G League. It is more and more difficult to exceed at each level of a competitive sport. Could Carson Strong be a better pro than he was a college QB? Absolutely. Will it be because he has better teammates in the pros? I really doubt that.

For real. And what kind of coach doesn't draft a QB? Every coach in recent memory always drafts a guy. Most of the time you're coming into a situation where the team stinks, and they need a QB. It's crazy to think Rhule decided to bet on Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold instead of just drafting a guy. Is it hubris or just stupidity?

Some great points here. I'd just like to add that this looks like back to back seasons where the Hornets are exciting, and they fizzle out towards the end. The play-in game last year was a disaster. I know we're a young team, but I'm starting to think these young guys need a different coach.

If the rumors about Flores and Tua are true, can you imagine what he would think of Sam Darnold's play?