PNW_PantherMan

Thats what he gets for losing to us on purpose last year.

Only time will tell, but I really like this draft for us.

Maybe trading all of our picks to Denver to get Teddy Bridgewater back.

I'll just add that I absolutely hated Michael Vick as a player for the Falcons. He completely destroyed us, and I'll never forget attending the 41-0 game in 2002. I have never seen a player single handedly destroy a team the way he destroyed us that season. The other game we lost 30-0.

Part of that is true, but part of that was also Vick's attitude. When he was drafted by the Falcons, he didn't take learning the playbook or watching film seriously. He changed his attitude a lot when he returned and played for the Eagles. By that point he had his head on straight, but his body couldn't stay on the field for 16 games anymore. If he had put it all together as a rookie, he'd be one of the best QBs of all time.

I'm okay if we take Pitts at 8. I like to think the strategy is to get people to jump ahead of us, so that a tackle falls to us. This talk of potentially trading up to get Pitts though... doesn't feel right. If we make that move, Pitts better be the real deal.

Maybe a 5th or 6th round pick.

Interesting

In short, yes. He looked worse his 2nd season as the starter than his 1st one. He had more INTs than TDs that year. By that point he was 3 years into the league. Once they took Rivers, Brees play took off in 2004 and 2005. By that point they had to make the call on which QB they were keeping long term. They chose Rivers, and the rest is history. In retrospect, either would have been correct IMO.

How does 2nd rounder 1 year out = 1st round pick? I get the point that if we are the worst team, it will be the 33rd overall pick. But, there is a time value associated with these picks you know.

I think that's kind of a good thing. I don't see Darnold being mediocre. We're going to know if he can be the guy or not by the end of the season. If he's trash, we'll probably be picking in the top 3 instead of 8, and we can select a top QB prospect.

I'm also not sure we can use the Browns as a guide for success. They have been rebuilding for 25 years, and finally had 1 good season (where they didn't even win the division or make it to the AFCCG btw). They could easily regress next season, and Baker finally looked good in year 3 when the team was stacked and he had good coaching.

Getting Bernard on the cheap would be a fantastic way to replace Mike Davis. Totally different style of back, but we could use the depth. Don't want CMC getting run into the ground anymore.

You also get in a perpetual loop by tanking in football. I don't really think its like the NBA where you can get 1 stud in the lottery and you're in much better shape. If you draft a good QB prospect on a dumpster fire of a team, he could easily get killed from no protection or not perform very well ever. You could be looking at decades of poor play before you get something going. Instead of trying to find someone that can develop and win on a decent football team, you're looking for someone that shows flashes in a dumpster fire. Not the best approach in my opinion.

No way to know for sure, but I find it hard to believe that Herbert and Mayfield would look as bad. Josh Allen looked pretty bad his first 2 seasons with the Bills and has improved tremendously.

We definitely need help at CB, but having a pass rush can hide that weakness somewhat. I think our OLine needs help for sure. I'm not convinced these guys we signed are going to be the answer.

Possible that other teams had this plan as well. Maybe we overpaid, but maybe that was the price for closing the deal now.

Teddy didn't outright lose a lot of games. He just doesn't win any of them either. If Darnold doesn't work out, he WILL lose us a lot of games next season.

He went to another team and became a good QB after everyone thought he was trash.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this. My initial gut reaction to the Teddy Bridgewater contract was negative. I don't really have the same feeling about this. I think its relatively low risk, even though some think the 2nd is too much. If he doesn't work out, we aren't really set back too much. If he fulfills his draft potential with us, we got a major steal.

Leaning this way more and more myself. I could easily see the Texans being stubborn, and Watson sitting out the entire year.

But the gamble could be anything. It could even be a Deshaun Watson!

Also, who then made the call to sign Shaq Thompson? Perry Fewell?

The only problem with that package is that BoB doesn't work there anymore. I don't think they go for it. On the Panthers side, I think you take that trade in a heartbeat.

To be fair, that wasn't exactly the Seahawks plan either. They signed Matt Flynn to a Teddy Bridgewater deal after he had a good game with the Packers. I know they liked Russ and wanted to land him, but if they really knew how great he would be, they wouldn't have let him fall so far.