Wes21

Yes, I've read about New Zealand. Did you ever look up New Zealand on a map? I am more interested in a country like Germany, because of how unique a situation New Zealand is. "Countries where elimination is likely to be the most feasible are those which can manage their borders tightly, have the resources for the sustained high volumes of testing and contact tracing required, and which can implement the kinds of lockdowns that may be needed to eliminate chains of transmission." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/10/elimination-what-new-zealands-coronavirus-response-can-teach-the-world

What specifically are you calling "the strictest measures?" Because from what I've seen as the strictest, is literally impossible to do in America unless you want a civil war. Then after killing off millions of Americans, you can do those things. Of course by then, the virus will be gone.

Don't just look at the population size. Take a look at the map and really think about it for a second. Its too unique of a situation to get any real data from, unless you are going to tell me they discovered a miracle drug. The Asian countries have a lot to offer, but I can't help but be distrustful of their actual numbers. I'm highly interested in what we can copy from Germany, whom I think is doing a great job with this.

New Zealand offers very little value to most other countries. It's too unique of a situation.

That's all he knows how to do. Don't take away his sunshine!

So 50,000 people dying is what you would call "in control" of a situation? Good to know.

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Exactly Obesity carries with it a ton of other issues along with it. There is nothing healthy about being "fat," regardless of how much people want to call it acceptable. The body starts to function differently after a person gets above a certain weight (each person is different).

It may help some, it may not. We have no idea yet. I just laugh when people act like its not a real drug already in use, just so they can grind their axe a little more against Trump. We get it.

Source please. Thank you.

New York is definitely its own animal. Not only are they densely populated, but so many people rely on public transportation. When my boss said we still had to show up to the office, we would drive our cars to work...go straight to our offices and shut the doors until the day was over. The only reason to get within 6 ft of another person to/at/from work would be on purpose. Many New Yorkers don't have that option.

To me this is the shining light at the end of the tunnel as boomers leave their executive positions and millennials start taking over. The 5 days a week 8 hour work day model is inefficient and outdated...in addition to having to show up to work for all of those hours. I'm hoping at least SOME remote work will become the new normal. I could definitely see my company allowing remote work on Friday's once the VP becomes President (he's a younger guy).

We are all at risk or come into contact with at risk people. Its an idea that can't work in practice in the US, if your goal is to just continue business as usual minus a few people.

The demographic data of the Spanish flu was incredibly different than this. If this were the Spanish flu, the NBA players who got it would be dead. Instead they are like “dang, I barely realized I had it, but now I’m clear.” The Spanish flu was killing those same demographics.

This is part of what companies have found out by locating operations in Mexico. Obviously they are not like a robot, but Mexican labor forces tend to be more reliable (less complaining, less sick days, less vacation) than American labor.

They shut stuff down pretty early on. I work with a supplier out of Seattle and they shut down the facility and were working from home (where possible) before it was even a thought in my mind that other areas would start doing the same.

For me, riding the bus was the best socializing I had in all of my school years (until college). The bus didn't come get us at our houses, they made the entire neighborhood go to a meeting spot and picked us up all at once. That meant every single morning all 6+ of us had to sit at the bus stop and chit chat with eachother until the bus got there. It was like our water cooler/coffee machine time for kids, to talk about the sporting events that happened the night before and talk about things coming up. Being on the bus was a similar experience, with tons of raw social interaction as it took 30+ minutes to get us to/from school. As far as bullying, don't forget that in today's world online bullying is a huge problem and in some ways its worse than in person bullying.

We make most "things" here in the US, its just that the general population is not aware that we do. Yes, China can be insanely cheap to make some items. Its almost laughable how cheaply they can make some stuff. The comparison between the two countries, however, shouldn't be about who can make it cheaper. Its whether the US can make it at a reasonable cost or not. What specific items are you talking about?

When Google doesn't know something, it asks Chuck Norris

You have mastered the art of leaving the audience wanting more

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Its too tough to police the details or even come up with proper guidelines, so they aren't even trying. Even within hospitals you have essential projects going on, and non-essential projects, and the same guys are going back and forth between the jobs. I'm glad the government didn't try to step in and micro manage the industry.

Some areas have already experienced them recently. Hell, when I was in Louisiana I went thru 2 of them over a few short years. It was definitely a WTF moment.

I don't like it when people talk about the US in terms of our "hospital system" as if we are a smaller country and its all related and co-mingled. However, even though the hospital overburden will be felt mainly in pockets...its still a scary reality in those areas. And even when its not a complete overburden of cases, it still strains the system and hurts results. I think I heard one doctor say something to the effect of "if I can realistically give quality care to up to 20 patients a day, what do you think happens when I'm suddenly seeing 30, 40, 50 patients a day? Everybody's quality of care they receive depreciates, even the initial 20 I was able to take good care of." I really liked his point about this being a +1 virus, meaning most other things will remain the same. Hell, I just had a car accident last week. It wasn't a bad one in terms of bodily injury, but people don't stop needing medical care just because Rona is in town.

We started stockpiling medical supplies in 1999. The question is not about if we will do it (we already are), but how many of each item that we should keep on hand and how it should be distributed once something hits. Various states have large stockpiles as well. California has an array of stashed items, for instance, including 21M N95 masks.