Jared Patterson

No do not trade. If you have to have him wait until he is cut.

But can it be done w a 30 million dollar tag? I don't think Bakers a long term solution. I do agree a small 2 year deal would work best.

No, we cant afford him that's the main reason I didn't want to make the move. Some of y'all just think I am a hater, when in reality I am just trying to build a team that can win a super bowl and be sustainable in the future. This was a desperate move by Rhule to save his job, nothing else.

Serious question. How do we tag him if we are -35 million in cap space and the tag for a QB is 30 million?

I am telling you someone the other day said I was crazy for saying it, but Mayfield has averaged a pick a day at the very least and it goes right with him leading the league in picks. He will have "wow" throws and will actually get us in the end zone , but he is going to throw a lot of picks.

We kept like 5 TEs last year and MacAdoodoo uses the TE way more than Brady. Thompson hasn't played, but he's a Rhule guy.

Would be a good idea IF WE DIDNT PAY FREAKING IAN THOMAS......

100%

Yahoo listed the Panthers as having the 31st best starting QB in the NFL. Greg Rosenthal 25th.

Hilarious

First everyone told me Kyle Allen was the guy, then Teddy Bridgewater was the man, then Sam Darnold was a "steal" now Baker Mayfield is greatness, what's next year going to bring Daniel Jones???

You used PFF. PFF had the Browns as the #1 Oline that year with OBJ (whose Dad/himself begged to get rid of Baker), Jarvis Landry, Nick Chubb, a TE that they just paid instead of Baker and a stud defense. Even the biggest Baker lovers (still not as big of a simp as you) would admit that was arguably the most loaded roster in the NFL. Why do you think they got rid of Baker then and went after a sexual predator if he is so good?

No one answers my questions when I ask "Can Baker win us a super bowl?" "How do we build a roster if we pay Baker next year?" And why did the Browns pay to get rid of the guy and guarantee/trade for a sexual predator if he is so good?" 8-9 wins means nothing to me sorry. I have bigger goals.

To help you learn

Look at his PFF numbers under pressure and when he doesn't have the best Oline in the NFL like in 2020. Browns had the most talented roster in the league and Baker held them back. Why they had to pay to get rid of him.

Opinions. Why was no other team, but us interested and why did the Browns have to beg us and pay for him to get him as far away from their franchise as possible?

You going to talk yourself into Daniel Jones next year?

Those are all your opinions not facts. Cam was a stud back in 2015 too. Doesn't mean anything now. You think Baker can take us to a championship? You going to re-sign him when we have no money next year? Guaranteed you are another fan that loves mediocrity and doesn't think about the future or a super bowl.

Some people here are okay/want mediocrity and I will not stand for it.

I hope Baker isn't part of the future... First of all he has proven he isn't a franchise QB and second we have no money next year what so ever. Literally 31st in the league in cap space somehow with Burns, Chinn, etc coming up.

Once again, I know Baker is better than Sam Darnold, but let's not act like he is a top 20 QB in the NFL or a team wouldn't have had to pay to get rid of him to a team with a desperate coach trying to save his job. Baker can get you 8-9 wins in a bad nfc, but he is not leading your team to a super bowl. He has not had a good camp, he got put in a tough situation so he shouldn't be expected to, but he has thrown a pick every practice and that matches him leading the league in picks....

LOL debate me then and I will make you delete your account as well buddy.... Can Baker lead us to a championship? Or are you a guy that is happy with 8-9 wins and then complain when we cant draft a QB and or try another reclamation project next year. Sorry, I have bigger goals than being competitive and would like a QB a team doesn't have to pay to get rid of to lead our team.

Can you believe we actually re-structured Elflein instead of cutting him and saving all his money? Now I am not sure we can cut him next year...

Wild card loss at the very best. Also, if Baker turns into Tom Brady, our coaching will still hold us back...

Baker is the better of two bad QBs, but he looked awful all camp and practice.... He is definitely more of a gamer, but I don't want to resign what so ever....