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There is another reason Disney would no bs consider the move. If the science says there's a meaningful chance Florida is underwater from climate change down the road, forget all the nonsense political noise from both sides, do you really think a company as big as Disney doesn't take a serious look at relocating their major park to avoid that risk? If they relocate to the mountains of NC, it would be telling. The cheapest, flatest land best suited for a major theme park by far isn't in the mountains, it's in the eastern part of the state. Compared to large chunks of eastern NC, Asheville is neither flat nor cheap, and building large roads to and from any relocated park would be much more expensive projects than in flat easter NC. But if Disney goes to the mountains, what does that tell you about what they believe might happen?

In other words, before Captain Carpetbagger moved his arse down here and began criticizing everything he could of about the new place he chose to live.

This.

This guy gets it.

I second this motion.

Tell me you're covering the Panthers without really covering the Panthers.

I love football. I"m a Panthers fan. But I would happily watch my team play on an old practice field in high school grade bleachers with porta pottys for restrooms if it meant public tax dollars desperately needed for things like our kids schools didn't get spent instead to build stadiums for an absurdly profitable sports league.

Maybe he's doing a 4Corners impersonation?

Honestly, I hope not. For two reasons. One while he is wowing everyone atm, it's still not even training camp. Let's let the young man learn and be a rookie for more than five minutes without piling extra responsibilities on him that aren't a requirement. Two: seperate from Bryce as a person, imo if an NFL team is naming ANY rookie a captain, it suggests a lack of veteran leadership on the team. I think we have enough capable vets on offense (Moton, Bozeman, Hurst, Sanders, Chark, etc) without having to name a rookie captain. Sure, do fans prefer for captains to be longtime players for the team instead of FA's in their first year with the team? Probably. But so what, how much does it really matter? If Young turns out to be anywhere near as good as we expect him to be and he looks capable of, he'll be a team captain for the next decade. I see no need to rush it.

Worst. Referee. Ever. * *dishonorable mention: Ed "You're not old enough to get that call" Hochuli fug you Ed.

I have a longtime friend who is a paramedic and one of his favorite sayings is "There is no IQ test to be a criminal." I think changes the incentives and disincentives have had a strong positive overall impact on player behavior, but no matter what you do, you're always going to have a minimal baseline level of knucklehead nonsense from guys who just can't figure it out or get out of their own way. No matter what the league did about player safety, Vontaze Burfict continued to be athletically gifted human garbage long after most guys had accepted the new paradigm. Thankfully that situation resolved itself and he's no longer in the league. The funny thing is, to me all signs point to the new way of doing things as a win for just about everybody but the Burficts and Morants of the world. I'm not sure how I might have turned out had I been handed millions of dollars in pay and a high degree of public recognition and adulation at an age where I could barely drink legally, but if I'd been surrounded by a lot of grown men covering for me and making excuses to the world every time I did something boneheaded, I suspect it's entirely possible things might have gone downhill fast. Switching from that to an environment of more personal accountability I suspect has lead to better outcomes for players, teams, and fans who got tired of the nonsense.

That's what I was thinking as well.

Off the top of my head? Win.

Over 20 years ago, a friend gave me this book about criminal behavior in the NFL; Pros and Cons: The Criminals Who Play in the NFL: Benedict, Jeff, Yaeger, Don: 9780446524032: Amazon.com: Books It was an eye opener. It was well researched and fairly presented. One of the underlying points of the book was about how organizations enabled awful behavior by excusing it. The authors talked about whenever you saw a head coach and a gm at a press conference about some awful thing a player or even coach had done, the phrase was always used that "everybody deserves a second chance, we all make mistakes." But what the research showed was that by the time this was being said publicly about an NFL player, it was almost never their second chance. It was their ninth, or tenth, or whatever. The thinking at the time seemed to be that we have so much invested in these players that we have to try to cover for them to protect that investment and keep them playing. I think that was the thinking in the NFL and pro sports in general for a long long time. But somewhere along the way, NFL teams thinking on this started to evolve imo. Maybe it was forced to because too many players just kept getting into trouble and becoming huge distractions and disruptions, who knows. But there definitely seemed to be a fundamental attitude shift amongst braintrusts that scouting character before drafting or signing a player was as important scouting their on field abilities. Remember when it started to become commonplace when watching draft coverage to hear about such and such a player sliding down because of character concerns? This started to hit NFL players and prospects that got out of line where it hurt: pocketbooks and prestige. Guys who on talent alone might have been first round picks or second round picks began to slide down by whole rounds of the draft over concerns about their ability to stay out of trouble. Veteran players started facing serious consequences from the league for bad behavior, including hefty fines and suspensions. Unscientifically, when you look around the league, I think most people who are old enough to remember the NFL 20 years ago would agree that there just seems to be less of this thing of players constantly getting into legal trouble. Drunk driving, SO or child abuse, drug involvement, arrests for insane levels of speeding or reckless driving, all of that nonsense seems to be on long term decline. When I look around the league today, I mostly see professionals increasingly conducting themselves in a professional manner. I don't see nearly as much hooligan behavior. Anyone who remembers the earliest days of the Panthers remembers Kerry Collins stupid smirk leaving the courthouse after his DUI, but we all also know that eventually he got his act together and matured into a veteran leader. I know that before they ever step in front of a mic at a press conference, most NFL players enter the league a lot more media savy than days gone by. While he obviously appears to be an exceptional young man in many respects, it's refreshing to me that the needle seems to be pointing a lot closer to guys like Bryce Young as typical than guys like that young Kerry Collins. There's not a lot of X's and O's to discuss this time of year, so I figured I'd share my thoughts and this and see what others think about this sort of thing.

Yes, because the team desperately needs a QB, has for longer than most NFL careers last, only two players at the position looked likely to be long term answers at QB and anyone not high on qualudes expected them to go in the first two picks. The trade is an absolute steal if Young performs as expected and worthy of the top pick in the draft. If he somehow bombs or (more likely) struggles to endure the physical punishment (remember, he's not old enough to get those calls. Yeah, still fug you Ed Hochuli), then it won't look great, but any big trade carries risks, and always will. Every single GM worth a damn would trade next year's first, the year after that's second, and an outstanding young receiver entering his prime for a franchise QB, even teams that already have one, because it's the rarest and most valuable commodity in the NFL. It matters more to winning than any other single factor, so it's worth giving up a ton for, especially when you finally have assembled an offensive line that looks capable of protecting one.

*head asplodes*

Overall the situation feels hugely penny wise and pound foolish on the owners part, getting cheap on surfaces when there is data that shows a difference in injury rate to your millionaire players, the ones your customers pay to see. As you imply, it seems especially weird when you look at Tepper in particular, a billionaire who clearly wants to win and was willing to shell out an absurd contract to get Rhule, then eat sunk costs on said contract when it was obvious he wasn't the answer. Who does that but then refuses to switch to grass when the money is all trivial to you anyway? Can having real grass instead of turf possibly cost him anywhere near as much as that one mistake? Tepper, is winning more important to you than the money or not? You're already set for life when it comes to money, why not use the surface that has the best chance to keep your best players on the field, or even just, you know, keep said players happy? I don't get it.

Let me clarify: Forget the 90 man roster, it's irrelevant because 53 is what you can carry in the regular season. What I'm advocating is that Young and Dalton are almost guaranteed to take all the snaps in a non train derailment this looks like the Rhule era season. Virtually all snaps, regardless of 1st, 2nd or 3rd team (which are not btw whole clear cut units the way you're implying. Divide 50 in half, 25 roster spots for offense, how many ways does 11 divide into that number? Right.) should be taken by the 2 QB's on the roster expected to actually play, with Young getting the vast majority of 1st team snaps Now let's go back to your 90 man roster before you go on about preseason, training camp etc. 37 is the difference between 90 and 53. 37 guys go through camp who will not be on the active roster. Half that number is 18 or 19, take your pick. This is what I'll grant: If you want Corral to go scrimmage with those not quite 20 guys who won't be on the team on opening day, knock yourself out, I'm fine with it. We know who they are. How many guys never expected to make the roster show out and win a spot each year? Maybe one, in a crazy year two, but often zero. These guys are Corral's practice buddies. He can have all the snaps with them he wants. But as far as players who might actually see the field on game day, I want Young and Dalton taking all the snaps with those groups, never mind your shell game of trying to convince me Dalton would be the one stealing snaps from Young. How that ratio breaks down isn't the point. The point is Corral is a long shot, we've known this since watching him flail around last season. He belongs with the other long shots. I'm not buying into the notion that because a guy was drafted in the third round in a year when our team had nothing worth looking at in the QB room, that investing in developing him with finite resources should be any sort of priority for the team when we just traded up to the top pick to get the guy expected to be our rock for the next decade. Lastly I am neither for nor against cutting him. Let the coaches go through the evaluation process and decide if he belongs on the roster or not. I have nothing in particular against the young man. My argument is about proper priorities for the team given the historical performance of players like Corral in the past. If you're looking for something I'm emotionally invested in, ask for my thoughts on Shakespeare in Love winning Best Picture the year Saving Private Ryan was nominated, you'll get an earful, but Matt Corral himself I neither like nor dislike. It's the situation I have an opinion on, not so much the player.

I tend to concur, especially in light of the state of the division. If a team can't come out of nowhere with a new coaching staff and a rookie qb, but with a sneaky good oline to win a division this awful, it can't be done. We're by no means a sure thing, but the opportunity is def there.

Somebody stole my last 3 band names.

Sometimes your dealer won't sell you any more for a little bit just to get you more hooked, and to show you who's in charge before he jacks up the prices on you. Not that I would know, I've just been told. Unrelated: Does anyone know where I could buy some "highlights"?

2020: poo sandwich 2021: poo sandwich 2022: (Rhule era); poo sandwich with stale moldly bread that puts you in the hospital with food poisoning. 2022: (Wilks era) ethnic food that turns out to be surprisingly edible but does also leave you with the runs. 2023:The entree they bring you at that trendy new restaurant where you don't get to order things, they just bring you a meal and it could be anything and you're kind of scared but kind of excited and somehow you wind up discovering that kangaroo meat marinated for two days in coca cola and served over mashed potatoes and pinto beans tastes amazing.* *This is a real dish that I served working at a fine dining place in college. PS- Please god let it be the kangaroo and mashed potatoes. I'm so sick of poo sandwiches.

... wait are you Are you suggesting Goodell is just a corporate shill? *gasps* I am shocked. Shocked I say.

Go away John Fox.

And yet it is. I am of the opinion if Young can't play for any reason at any point in the season, the coaching staff is more likely to put Dalton as a 12 year veteran in than Corral as a second year guy showing no discernable promise based on his game snaps to date. No one wants to start Dalton, but if Young goes down, I'm pretty confident Dalton is the one getting the nod. Let's both hope it doesn't happen, but let's be clear about what I'm saying. There is no scenario in which Corral sees the field this season that isn't awful, and the situation with this franchise having just drafted a QB number one overall wouldn't be a good situation for any developmental prospect like Corral. His best shot would be on a team with an established franchise qb that didn't need it's backup to groom the future face of the franchise, and could afford to take someone like Corral and bring him along over time. At the end of the day we can throw the "you're being really silly about this" ball back and forth all we want. I think folks who seem invested in the notion Corral has any significant chance of paying off for this team should PM me about some great deals I have on real estate in Sasketchewan. Or the winning numbers to next week's lottery. I've got those too.