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9 hours ago, Pup McBarky said:

No, some people can care about sports and character. And yes, if some actor I like is discovered to be a pedophile, I'm not watching their movies anymore. I don't want morally questionable people on my favorite sports team, in my favorite movies, singing my favorite songs. Sorry, but winning isn't everything. Thinking it is is actually what's ass backwards.

Pedophile is an extreme that’s not the point.

Point is celebrities barring extremes shouldn’t matter, they are there to entertain you. And it’s ass backwards to use them for that purpose...there are plenty of other professionals where it does matter. Looking up to athletes and celebrities is dumb.

If you listed your top 3 movies and top three songs I could rip it apart.

but hey looks like TB won the super bowl for you, congrats

8 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

That one is on Brady as much as it is Hurney. Teddy was Brady's guy from NO so Rhule went along with it and is also to blame. The only blame Hurney really gets is handing him a loaded contract to boot.

Really in hindsight we should have just gone with Cam last year.

I don’t think Cam would’ve played. He was rolling around in a leg cast whining about ‘commitment’.

Would he have signed a deal like TB got that basically screams the opposite of commitment (which is ironic as the Panthers never looked to replace him for 2 years as he rehabbed)? Hard to believe.

Whats easier to believe is he played the FA game on his terms and lost.

But yea I’m with you, I’d rather tell him to suck it up buttercup and send him out there as a lame duck for his final year and save us from TB. But then again it’s  hard to say what kind of impression and environment that would be for the locker room.

Or maybe the Panthers just did what he wanted if there was not going to be a deal out of respect. Poor business move though, we will never really know the details.

25 minutes ago, DIO84 said:

I just made this account to say fug this fanbase.  Why is it that everyone hates all the high character players and coaches?  I don't get it.

We are fans of the sport. Winning is all that matters here. Do you care about the moral values of all the actors in movies you watch? Your movie collection must be pretty non existent. How about stores you shop at? Online sites you go to? Music you listen to? People who employ you?

Probably not because they’re not meant to fill these voids in your life and be a moral compass and if they were you’d be shopping at places you don’t really like and listening to music you don’t either all while watching shitty movies. 

Same things with athletes, the whole choir boy team is BS. It’s entertainment. And most of the good deeds are contractual obligations. I don’t give two shits about high moral character and sports and people who do have it ass backwards.

Yep in the legal system it really does just come down to money. Money buys you representation and specialists. I see it everyday in my work.

Not to say free lawyers are always bad, in fact, depending on the situation they can the the best. But that’s the exception. In general, money=better outcome.

32 minutes ago, Pimpdaddy said:

Thing that pisses me off is...who did they think Teddy was...like now he has leprosy and they tryin to ditch him... just makes me question the fk outta their judgment...and, will they get it right this time.

 

That’s how it’s works. San Fran did it, Bills did it, Dolphins did it, Chiefs did it...Seahawks before Russell, Patriots are now going through it with Cam....Colts about to do it

There are some years of growing pains and mistakes before these teams compete and also so periods of some stop gap QBs like the teams above did for 2-3 years

Besides the rare couple of exceptions these growing pains are the norm, what teams are you all watching that makes you think the Panthers are so special they don’t have to go through the process and are the only ones making these mistakes?

At least TB was only signed for two years...just think of Wentz, Goff, and other teams that gave massive contracts they need to unload - I’d rather they wait longer and do it right before royally fuging up like that

some of you are seriously unrealistic and melodramatic about the situation and need to just sit the hell back and realize it’ll take time

2 hours ago, bythenbrs said:

Perhaps not character but businesses do look for emotional intelligence, the ability to communicate effectively, poise under duress, etc., all things that can be revealed when watching a prospective employee speaking publicly.  They are valid 'tells' and part of the overall evaluation process.  Will not make up for a limp arm or lousy wonderlic test.

That’s social intelligence. There is a correlation between high social intelligence and low emotional intelligence. Not to say everyone is the same but there are plenty of examples and research on it. And no it can’t be revealed by public speaking.

Public speaking reveals how effective someone is at public speaking, little else.

8 hours ago, Zod said:

I was more defending Fields. Most people are not good at public speaking. To assume they lack character as a result probably isn't wise. 

It’s been the downfall of human kind since the dawn of man. It’s why cunning criminals get lesser sentences and on the flip side judges get their position, serial killers are able lure victims, it’s why an employer looks for a shitty working extrovert instead of a hardworking introvert, it’s why all politicians are essentially garbage but no one votes for the person they don’t like watching and hearing speak - and that’s not just politics.

Imagine there being a population of people who can do things much better but they lack this appeal/skills. It exists, it’s reality. It’s basically human stupidity to judge on such a meaningless detail and it’s sad - not that it’s not a skill, it is, that shouldn’t be overlooked. But it’s sad because it’s placed above ability.

I could go on and on but basically extroverts and seemingly open trusting people make lazy, stupid people feel good and they’ll always be the majority. 

6 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Ha!  Fair enough.

If I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have gotten married and I'd never live with someone again.

That said I wouldn't trade the time with my wife for anything

It’s funny I am at that age (35) never married, with my girl for three years now...starting to feel the pressure

every single one of my friends I relate to and get along with who are married say the same thing, they’d never have done it 

so many people say this now days, if I don’t marry now I don’t think I ever will but you all being in sync with this stuff scare me 

My girl got this for me for Christmas (PS4)...still shrink wrapped because of everything I read...

think I read in March CD is going to release a massive fix

anyone have issues on ps4? I have the ps4 pro and supposedly it’s better on it than the original

until March guess I’ll see what Valhalla is about.

If only someone gave me $1500 for a new PC this wouldn’t be an issue

my Gfs good friend works in the higher ups there

she said the pandemic created a ton of issues...mainly people didn’t want to work and were worried about exposure

this led to people quitting and getting laid off, usps were finding people who would work

then...yep you guessed it, people starting filing legal action involving government job terms 

so now they’re paying some people but they’re not working...can’t fill already filled positions etc. probably more complicated than that

39 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Ive said for too many years.

Love my wife.  Wouldn't trade her for anything.  Wouldn't do it again to save my life.

 

Glad you're happy but FML why would you let someone get in your space again?

Wait I’m confused...

would you trade your wife for the opportunity to not do it over again?

20 minutes ago, davos said:

Kurb, SCP, CultClassic, Boo, Bleys, too many completely trailed off

the flaming cam stans cleared this place out for the first couple years...have to admit it was unbearable for a while

27 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, I guess any way you want to twist the narrative. The fact is that was an outlier season for all three QB's. Well.....except for Favre who actually had six 20+ INT seasons. 

Winston's 4.8% INT Percentage in 2019 would have actually been the third highest in Peyton Manning's career and tied for the second highest in Brett Favre's career. 

But again, I guess only Winston has had a terrible season in NFL history. 

The fact the NFL has changed isn’t a narrative.

Cherry picking P Manning’s rookie year in 1998 and comparing to Winston’s 5th in 2019 seems like twisting something. Don’t even know how you compare the best of all time with Winston anyhow.

As I said...Favre is more comparable. When Winston can put up 18 seasons and super bowl appearances, yea we can start looking at his bad season as an anomaly/outlier or part of his play like Favre. 

The fact so far though is he was on a super bowl caliber team and brought them no where.

6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Brett Favre had a 29 INT season. Peyton Manning had a 28 INT season.

Lol

yea Manning’s rookie season

and Favre did it after a decade

and yea both came close in like 15+ season career

and they also played in a time QBs and WRs got knocked around

Jameis beat em both in only 5 years in a pass happy, protected league with rules to benefit him

and to add to the obvious he’s no Manning he’s not Favre either, though it’s be a better comparison except again, Favre did it better in a harder era

No thanks. 

Yea I don’t think his issues are coachable...not so strong in the decision making and constant INTs his entire career. How do you even throw 30 INTs in a season?

Yea, it’s Brady but the fact they literally replaced him with Brady and now they’re in their super bowl tells me a lot. That’s has always been a talented team.

Regardless...do I see Winston getting a team to a super bowl? No. I think he’s an OK QB but late Cam and TB has this board falling in love with any QB who can sling it without caring about anything else.

Trading Watson would screw the Texans cap wise even getting picks. I have a feeling they just might let him sit and I believe he himself will sit.

Good article on what trading Watson means for the Texans.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.battleredblog.com/platform/amp/2021/2/3/22263884/the-houston-texans-cant-trade-deshaun-watson

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

You guys have so little faith

Oh hey, remember this?

Captain Munnerlyn?

For cheap? Not giving away aroun firsts? Sure. 
 

But he won’t won’t be cheap.

As an avid football fan idgaf I watch any game I can anywhere I can.

You all must forget those pre and post draft withdrawals from not being able to watch football then when September comes around you’re on the brink of death for a game, any game

Tis yet another long road ahead...

fug yea I’ll be watching

3 hours ago, t96 said:

Lol peak offseason this early in the year?

Early you say...I feel like it’s been the off-season for the past three years

3 hours ago, Jesse said:

Whatever they do it sounds like Fitterer is going to at least explore the idea of trading for him at a minimum. 
 

Would the Seahawks still be competitive since 2016 without Wilson? They’re a sub .500 team without him.
 

What happened to the Broncos since Manning left? I’m sure Elway would trade his 2016-2018 drafts for a guy like Watson. 
 

I don’t even want to bring them up, but look at the Patriots with and without a franchise QB  

 

I hope everyone sees the same conclusion I see—you’re nothing in the NFL without a franchise QB. 

The past two decades of super bowl contenders do have a franchise QB as a top correlation... but it’s #3.

The first two?

1. Top defense 

2. Top oline 

With literally a few anomalies.

There are tons of examples throughout history of poor teams with a franchise QB who went no where.

Like for example the 2020 Texans.

If you have nothing to build with AND and team need building, a franchise QB will not matter.

You see success in these scenarios when a franchise QB goes to a team that is already solidly built. 
 

See the 2020 Bucs. They’re full of mercenaries yes but also have always been full of talent. They should have been competitors for years. Winston literally threw 30 interceptions last year.
 

A great a example of a team benefitting from a rediculoous trade like this is Miami - not to mention the capital they have.

San Fran also a good example.

The rebuilding Panthers who literally have no oline and a bottom ranked defense is almost the best possible example of a team who would get crippled with this kind of trade - especially giving up two defensive players which is basically all we really have.

34 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

One year removed from Cam, but four years removed from Cam's last good season (2017).   Until we released him, however, we were functioning on false hope. 

MARK THESE WORDS:  Panthers will trade up with the Jets or the Bengals and get a QB. 

It’s funny how people think the Panthers did Cam wrong but sacrificed two seasons waiting for him to rehab without so much as looking at another QB.

Now all these people are now complaining the Panthers aren’t finding a franchise QB fast enough.

Wait you meant it doesn’t take just one off-season to secure a long term franchise qb?

some of you guys really need to look at the history of franchise QBs

It’s extremely rare to go back to back with great qbs like Montana/young, Beldsoe/Brady, Farve/rodgers

Just doesn’t happen. The teams who have their guy now, chiefs, Ravens, chargers, bills, Seahawks etc etc have had several poo years and misses beforehand 

the Panthers aren’t special, they’re not getting there without putting in their time

they are one year removed from cam, give it some time and mistakes for things to work out

2 hours ago, Ja Rhule said:

I graduated from high school as one of the worse students in school history.  They basically passed me to get me the fug out (I was on a verge of being expelled from CMS).  I had both parents but they both worked 2 jobs and had no time for me.  I got constantly suspended for fighting, skipped school and was with a wrong crowd.  I was in the process of joining marines (I graduated in 2004).  I pulled my parents together and informed them that I’m going to enlist the next day... that’s when my parents finally realized they failed me.  My mom lost it and had a meltdown.

Same. Except I was expelled in 9th grade. I was a bad, dangerous kid and I can honestly say that now looking at it as a past life and that’s why I was homeschooled. I was smart but I just didn’t care. My mom also had a meltdown.

I didn’t have two parents who helped. But they also didn’t stick my in an alternative school. Dad worked 15 hours a day and mom worked part time and had 3 siblings to take care of.

I can say whenever I struggled there immediately went out and hired a top rated tutor for that subject. A luxury not everyone can afford. I don’t even think we could’ve I’m sure it was a debt to my family paying for an o line private school and tutors.

The more I read about it I think socioeconomic status may skew homeschooler results more than just having shitty parents. But it’s probably mixture and the fact some kids need that social environment to learn where as some such as myself, need to learn without it.

I know an army wife right now, husband is deployed with two kids and a full time job and I know she is struggling with the whole homeschool thing. Her kids want no part of it.