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I don’t think his production is all of a sudden going to be even more with a better QB. He’ll be covered more with a QB who makes him a deep threat and the QB might be rushed less. No one was scared TB was going to hit DJ 50 yards down the field lol and they played like it. Did teams ever send help? I just remember a lot of 1v1 and that was without cmc. I still think he’d be as good though, and more importantly the possibility of a 50 yard bomb with a better qb will open up the offense.

That’s not exactly a risky/hot take - it’s all but written in stone. I’m just saying I’d rather have TB and/or a rookie than trade a high round pick for basically nothing (Darnold). Trading TB and giving picks for Darnold is basically the most wasteful route you could go IMO unless you have a QB that you believe is your guy, you know will be there at 8, and don’t want to sit him and start him day 1 which is not only impossible to know but doubtful.

meh we can build the team with TB for another year without trading picks and I don’t think he has ‘it’ to be the future. Who knows though he could be Allen and just need more time. But I’d rather draft a raw QB to sit for a year or work on building a solid team than trade anything ridiculous away. But I’m a fan more concerned with how we look 2023 and beyond more than being continuously butthurt I’m not instantly gratified.

TB is just going around like A Smith and Fitz as a bridge QB like most teams do until they get their guy. No need to add to dead money though if Panthers don’t have a plan, which is what I assume they’d do before trading him. But other than dead money there’s sense in keeping him if we get someone like Lance and sit him until midseason or whatever. Point it options go with TB and despite throwing Grier out there and tanking before the season has even started - there’s a better plan in place I’m sure.

“Multiple sources who have spoken with Belichick this offseason said he does nothing but rave about Newton and the effort the quarterback put forth in 2020,” Volin writes. “The only problem Belichick is concerned with is Newton’s arm strength, with Newton having suffered multiple shoulder injuries in the last five years.”

Google is your friend, you can learn things like this isn’t true. You’ll also learn what is true - that DUI laws are pathetic. But the truth isn’t ‘edgy’ enough now days so no one will care to change it.

You people and your hate for TB....it wouldn’t make any sense. Yes TB is overpaid but he only has one year left - but for fans it seems to be this made up franchise crippling contract. By trading you’re then adding another 10 M to whoever you try and pay and find to be the QB for next season and you limit all of your options. So you fug your cap for a year just so you can get rid of TB? For what? Only way I see that as a good idea is if you have a sure fire QB you’re drafting and you plan on starting him day 1. Or you get a QB you plan to start like the Stafford trade. Don’t waste cap space without a plan. No one knows how the draft will fall or even if a QB will be drafted. But TB is insurance either way. Panthers can sit a rookie as long as a year, give him competition in camp etc. Also no one knows how FA will play out, the Panthers could end up with no one else. The whole start Grier and tank before the season hasn’t begun isn’t an option either. So you keep TB. No one is going to offer more than a 5th for a back up QB anyways, and that’s not worth his dead cap AND signing a new QB AND taking away any options for a drafted QB...if that exists. Too many unknowns at this point.

4th ranked oline and a back who average 5 yards a carry.. No sorry, some receivers and a qb is all they need.

Other than weapons and poor qb play the Patriots are actually a really good team and well coached. They don’t need much to contend.

If 4 QBs do go in the top 7 picks I see that actually benefiting the team, still have some great choices at other position if that’s the case. You guys are so obsessed with QB that think finding a franchise QB one year removed from the last one is some sort of norm. It really isn’t and the rare examples are decades apart. The majority had dud seasons and bridge QBs filling the gaps. It’s may take time barring a trade.

I’ve watched some of Lance...is it the arm strength you guys are all gushing over? I don’t see much else, athletic talent? His recovers are always open seems like, not a lot of accuracy or going through reads. I guess this is what it means to be raw? But do these traits really go well with the Brady offense or is everyone expecting either Lance to learn or Brady to change. I’m genuinely curious, I don’t watch much college just looking at QB games/highlights.

Lol yep. My house cost me $375,000 in SLC. This house in Charlotte? Easily $250k or less with more land. I really REALLY hate the fuging west housing costs. Seattle, Cali, Colorado, AZ is getting up there. Hell even Vegas is getting dumb expensive. Boise is still nice but it’s only a matter of time. Montana, NM, and Wyoming are all that’s left on the entire west side of the US...but there is not poo out there. I have a great job out here but you can bet your ass my sights are set on the east coast for retirement.

Charlotte pales to pretty much any city. It’s funny people freak out...these are great prices for a city like Charlotte.

It’s not really either or, the defense and the oline are equally abysmal. And they’re both very important. The difference is we went all defense in the draft last year and expect the extremely young defense to get better even by doing nothing. The oline on the other hand has zero investment. We’ve seen this movie play out before...

WRs have never been important for super bowl and deep playoff contenders. See cam 2015. What we need is what these teams all have in common. An oline. See cam 2015 again. If the trade includes defensive players, might need to focus on drafting what all those teams had in common as well, a defense. WR is literally the last position to look at.

If we would’ve traded 2 firsts for Brian Burns or 2-3 for cam in 2011 we’d all be happy and say it turned out alright.... but it turned out alright anyways without having to trade anything. Don’t know what you coulda had since it was traded. seems to me all the recent franchise qbs were drafted not traded for I’d rather have confidence the FO can find an good qb with 3 years worth of first and second round picks, considering some sort of strategy of moving up to get their guy with those combination of picks than just trade them something tells me if they’re too inept to do that with all that capital - we’re screwed regardless

Everyone except butthurt creepy cam fans already knew that was dumb.

Underestimation of just how awful the Panthers team is as a whole. Average of overall defense and offense rankings put them in bottom 3rd of the league, and not the top at that. TB needs a great team around him like the Saints to succeed. But it’s a two year deal. It’s not like it was a franchise crippling move, far from it. And there was no draft capital involved so in reality it means close to nothing considering the options. should be a good lesson for our green coaches and management, and it appears they’re learning quick, Tepper does not want another managing QB

Watson is better that Wilson? lol only on the huddle

Cam had the 4th ranked oline in the NFL last year. The Panthers were 18. Cam had the 7th ranked defense in the NFL last year. The Panthers were 18. Cam had the 1st ranked special teams in the NFL last year. The Panthers ranked around 19-20. Cam had Belicheck, the GOAT. The Panthers had a first year college coach. The entire Planthers team had to learn a new system not just one player. Cam is still a free agent even as you said ‘teams do not wait around to get their QB’. FA hasn’t started but teams still have plans in place. No one’s include Cam. On the flip side the Panthers had much better weapons. There is a reason Cam won more games and it’s not because Rhule is a shitty coach or Cam isn’t done.

This makes sense to me. I take it as Cam wanted probably a 4 year 100 mil+ ‘commitment’ extension to play and thankfully they were intimidated and didn’t do it.

Because he was never ignored in the first place.

actually, personally, I do. you clearly didn’t comprehend when I said I am not against something a grown man decides to do - it means I’m not arguing right or wrong, I’m saying ignoring the kid would’ve been better for him and the kid if you don’t believe me look at all the poo that’s become of this, if he was ignored it wouldn’t even be known and I’m sure the kid would feel stupid

I get what you’re saying, but ‘responded to it perfectly’ as people are putting it is way off google cam Newton and this poo is everywhere no matter what you think of it had it been handled ‘perfectly’ (ignored) no one would even know and the kid would prolly learn dumbassery won’t earn him any attention no, he didn’t go all out and I don’t think what he responded with was anything worth talking about or people should really are but the bottom line is he should know better getting this attention for the record Cam isn’t being scrutinized, almost everyone is on his side for telling off and ingrate but imma have to disagree if Brady did this poo he’d be scrutinized more and for me look just as foolish