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It was picked up this year, but doesn’t it run through next season?

I can’t think of any other reason why someone would say something like Foreman is CMC with similar stats other than not understanding football. CMC literally just took an entire mid section of a teams’ draft, in 2022, and paid 20m a year…AND to a team that was already stripped, meaning even more value to them. Teams don’t do that for just anyone…that was my point. It’s not just about the numbers. CMC will elevate the entire offense and give a lot more options, mismatches and force the opposing DC to pay attention. The casual fan looks at numbers, where as knowing a bit more will notice these things. We couldn’t trade Forman for a conditional 7th if we tried.

Things get messy for obvious reasons with a tag and trade, so generally that’s probably not going to happen. Isn’t he eligible for a 5th year option? And that’s in 2024, meaning there is still plenty of time. CMC made sense from all angles but the only one it makes for Burns is if he is wanting out and demanding a trade. Which is possible. Otherwise the smart move is to simply let the new regimen make that call and still have time to trade him if needed unless I am missing something.

Yep it’s really hard not to like Stroud. Dude can sling a ball. Seems to me his faults are where they should be and can be worked out.

I’m for the trade just to be clear but those type of comments come from madden players who watch Panther games and not the actual sport. no DC is going to scheme and shift around for Forman even if he puts up the same numbers. Other offensive players won’t be getting open, finding gaps and mismatches because foreman is on the field…even if numbers are the same. Forman isn’t making anyone pay dearly for not doubling or spying him. That’s the difference.

we absolutely have not and if we keep Fit it’s not looking good unless you buy the idea Fit was paid to high five Rhule on draft day and that’s it (which is BS). personally, i find it very very hard to believe the most qualified GM for the job just so happens to be the yes man we hired for Rhule…I mean what are the chances, really?

it may very well may be cmc pushed the trade to happen and this was the best deal offered. i mean who can blame him really?

Picks 2-4 next year man it really sucks to believe our franchise is so trash we can’t even utilize a player like cmc… not that I disagree with the trade, this is good, a first would have been great, using cmc properly with a winning team and competent staff would’ve been the ultimate. but as a panthers fan, mediocre may be the realistic ultimate

i love how we are just cutting fat and contracts, tryna get picks racking up dead money like we just made a run or something lmao i hate you Tepper.

all white people look the same edit:damn you oldham

Sam is trash. No one needs to wants to see it. It honestly doesn’t matter, but Sam is better than Bake or PJ for the reasons you outlined. It is a very weird argument from a football knowledge perspective to say the QB with the least clean pockets in 2021 also was the worst when he finally had one. Again not defending Darnold and if he does worse than Baker I will gladly eat crow.

Still need to see consistency. Huddle loves to flip on a switch. Always odd to me a player clicks closer to payday. But it is sooner than expected in year 3 which is a good sign. Would like to see a solid year 4 and 5 before giving money.

Yes he will play, he is the best QB on the team. That doesn’t mean anything but he won’t be worse than Baker. You Baker fanboys are pretty hardcore, the guy is absolute garbage even considering Scheme. It’s truly been a while since I’ve seen a starter, believed to be a good QB, be so god awful.

It’s just a weird comparison and doesn’t make sense. What are you saying? I’d rather have cmc in the backfield and smitty down field. Putting one in the others’ position makes no sense. Either or depends on the QB. Overall smitty is still the better player but cmc still has more career and hopefully gets on a team that realizes he needs to be used like Edelman, short pass in open space. If that happens he has a chance to be better. Maybe it’s just me or watching straight trash for years but a prime Jake had a really good arm, like go watch some reruns…I’d kill to see some poo like that now and all those jump balls were also because smitty was a small ass dude. I’ve met him many times and as an average dude he is small, which makes it all that more impressive. He does have some longass arms though, as do I.

Don’t bother. People think Baker with top 10 oline and cmc while having a similar performance and stats, even worse, is somehow better than Darnold. It’s a moot argument but people really can’t let go of Baker being absolute garbage which I declared before he took a snap, though to be fair I didn’t know he’d look worse than Darnold. But you’re right. Which is why I hope they keep playing PJ, bet I guarantee you Sam will start soon.

Sam will look better than Baker. Just watch. Still trash, but enough to get us out the the first pick. You’ll all see soon enough. This is some BS.

This team won’t compete for 2-3 years. And even two years is still basically three seasons from now. Trade CMC. It makes sense from all angles and this is coming from someone who has been against it until now. If you can’t find a RB to help out your young QB your problem is your GM.

I am not speaking to any hypotheticals or off-season or preseason. I don’t want to convince myself who is king of the trash pile, no need to because they both suck. But Baker is god awful behind a FAR superior oline and with CMC as a weapon. From what I’ve seen Baker is absolutely hot garbage and doesn’t even have hold my beer moments with a far superior team. Baker on last years’ team would be just as if not worse than Darnold, unless you think his QBR would increase without cmc and a worse oline.

I like Stroud but admittedly not a huge college guy. Just watch when I can and read. I am also optimistic we won’t be the modern Browns and won’t pick so high every year so it’s the best time to get the franchise guy in a deep draft. Unlike past years I do believe this coming draft will produce a franchise QB, whomever that may be. I also know worthwhile qbs AND coaches have flat out declined to play or interview with this franchise. Drafting a qb is the only way up. Draft is the draft, you can never be 100%. But you take your shots on the best of what you know, and the best of what we know is Stroud appears to be a solid choice compared to what I’ve seen in past drafts, and just in general. Darnold would be an average backup behind a good line. However, unlike fanboys here, I think Corral’s ceiling is a serviceable backup so ultimately that spot is already taken.

Oh I definitely acting like a fugtard at some point in my life, that is how I 100% know what this is lol.

Darnold has identical stats as Baker with he worst oline in the NFL and no CMC. Plus his rushing numbers look better. Believe it or not from what we’ve seen of Baker so far, Darnold is actually better and awful as he is.

Worst thing that can happen to this team. Darnold can win a couple games behind this oline, which is the best he will ever had. Plus he now has CMC. Prepare for some bullshit moral victories and the 5th pick in the draft.

You’re not. It makes you sound like a fugtard. Like Pinkman from breaking bad. But he’s a character. IRL It’s not cool, it’s pathetic. And that’s why people do it, to feel cool, it isn’t culture give me a break. Some druggie burnouts don’t have a choice because they fried their brain, but consciously acting like that is insufferable. And I’m not saying this as an old fart, I’m barely out of my 20s.

we didn’t know before?

Being the worst team isn’t the problem. It’s morphing into being the worst franchise that you should truly be scared of. Huge, huge difference. Engrained culture of losing, so even mass top picks over years no longer matter. We are not far. The Browns, Dolphins, Lions…look at their histories and records. Pure apathy and ineptness. This could be us soon, hell, even now those are the only few teams we can be thankful we are not. Look at interviews of ex Browns personnel and players over the years. They full on admit no one gave a poo and it was all because the top had no idea what they were doing. They literally said this. No matter how much talent was garnered by high draft picks for years, no one was competent in the front office and it simply trickled down. Coaches didn’t coach players to do anything right…just like Rhule. One big poo hole, and the fans went to games to get drunk. Attending a game was simply a novelty. Being a Browns fan was declared to get some laughs. That is what is truly going to suck because Tepper has that feel to him, like he’s just going to keep calling shots thinking he knows and never figuring out or accepting thy he actually doesn’t. He will turn the Panthers into the the modern browns and it will be near impossible to reverse. Think about it. He has already solidified the WORST stretch in the Panthers’ history in almost three decades of existence, and it only took him five years to do so. fug Tepper.