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Herbert…should’ve offered more for him. Next thread up, Panthers haven’t traded to draft a QB since Cam left and how that has worked so far. Seriously. We know a worthwhile FA isn’t coming here. We also know this team won’t tank properly. Soooooo what do you propose exactly? Keep sifting through trash? I said the day Tepper took over and Cam left this franchise won’t turn around until it started taking chances at DRAFTING a QB and I stand by it. I’d rather take the chance.

Sorry don’t believe it. This is just a toy for Tepper. If he truly cared he’d hire consultants. He be more self aware. He isn’t qualified. And honestly he doesn’t care. If we do well he wants to be the reason and wants the credit. Could take ten years, could be never - that fact isn’t important to him and that’s the problem.

I agree and to be clear when I say consultants, I mean they should help with a GM hire more so than a coach. Fitt isn’t the answer. We need a GM.

honestly we should just be trading and rolling over every superstar and draft pick for the future so we will own the entire first round in years 2048 and 2049 when Tepper is finally gone

This doesn’t really make sense. Business, contracts, and football are all not only very broad subjects but very different and a specialist at one isn’t at the other. To that point, I highly doubt she knows more about hiring a HC than a lot of people, Tepper included. Just because they’re owners doesn’t mean poo. Overall there is zero evidence the people making the decisions are able to made good ones, in fact, quite the contrary. However, there ARE specialists in making these kind of decisions. JR hired consultants that led to a hire that led to a Super Bowl. However when an owner who has already solidified himself with the worst results a company has seen in 30 years says fug those consultants, I’ll still make these decisions and now include my wife…well it’s pretty clear to any average person this is just some dumb poo.

in fairness it didn’t exactly seem easy to do worse that JR by just about all measurements… somehow Tepper made it look like a piece of fuging cake weird to say how much I miss JR and his slightly below average ways

No reason Sam can’t be signed back up money and play until he shits the bed 5 games in and we can play the rookie we trade up for and be a good back up for years to come. It’s comical to me most Sam haters who can’t even see he is a decent back up thought PJ was better and even starter material lmao

Trade up. For those worried about price, think about this, we’ve had a top 10 pick for years and never traded it. And yet we strung together 5 win seasons. And overachieved and got 7 this year. Still a losing team. You need a QB. And a nice FA isn’t coming here. I didn’t always agree with this strategy, but this isn’t an elite owner, coaching or scouting franchise that can win off average/game managing QBs. Should’ve learned with Cam. It’s the only way.

What about all the articles that come out that reference FO personnel, coaches, and players that have stated examples of franchises not playing to win for draft picks including the recent Dolphin scenario? I assume you’re saying they’re liars?

How many draft spots did we just drop? Five?

Tepper is an idiot, way out of his realm, and too egotistical to get out of his own way. How in the world can anyone look back at creating the worst stretch in a 30 year franchise history and NFL in general, then turn around and still think they should be making decisions? What a complete, unaware dumbass. I get bringing in lots of options, but seriously, who here would bet on Tepper securing the best candidate? Anyone?

There is a huge difference in giving control to a small school door to door salesman and an odd, but proven big time winner at the NFL level. Big time coaches like Payton will also want control, he’s already said so. There is also something to say for someone who thinks it’s all the same. That is stupidity, but likely Tepper’s logic. Tepper has absolutely no idea what he’s doing per usual and the fact that he’s hesitant on Harbaugh just makes me want him more. Harbaugh doesn’t mix well with big ego guys since he himself has one, however he will give Tepper exactly what he wants - a winning football team in the least amount of time possible. The difference in the Vikings is they appear to know what they were doing with an alternative choice. So makes sense. Tepper is a god damn idiot as we all know and you can 100% bet his alternate choice is some dumbassery.

I’ll be watching but I can’t for the life of me understand even just one good reason for a win. So Darnold and Wilks are playing for elsewhere…and? as a Panther fan I want a higher pick. Is corral able to play?

If you hate excuses and hater talk you must’ve hated the Cam era. He had the 17th ranked oline and that was more of an excuse than Sam’s 31st ranked. Don’t get me started on coaches lol… In any case Darnold is a legit back up in this league. But aside from a draft pick what other options are there? Corral’s ceiling is Darnold despite homers. FAs worth a poo aren’t coming here, plenty of proof for that. Would be nice to spend a high pick or trade up for a QB everyone believes is the future, let Sam start and put in the rookie when things go to crap.

Saying it was actually true this season implies that it was not true last season.

People, like 75% of the huddle, were saying this last year too, and that Darnold was the issue, and the oline was fine. This year it could’ve been true. But I’d add we just need another dline playmaker. This team loves to give opposing QBs all day long and that will get you destroyed in the playoffs.

Some people can look back at a losing franchise, and it’s no back to back winning seasons in 30 years, whose history almost mirrors the Jets, and last winning season was half a decade ago - recently stringing along the top 3 worst record over a five year span in the NFL, with an average of barley six wins a season…and say they’re worry about Harbaugh, a proven winner as the next possible coach because his ego…lmao huddle you continue to embarrass

Some of us got blasted for saying Baker was garbage and had no expectations of him. Granted he was even worse than I thought. Same with Robbie. I’m not sure if it’s homerism or new fans or giving benefit of the doubt to a rediculous degree but our fans e has this weird quirk of agreeing with literally everything being done just for being a fan. But sometimes the writing is already on the wall and your favorite franchise just sucks at making decisions. Which leads me to Chinn. He just isn’t used right. Henderson, Mayos, Thomas all more realistic answers for me. I didn’t have expectations from Taylor as a late pick by my god he is just complete trash.

Harbaugh would crash and burn after 4/5 years no doubt but not after at least two division titles at minimum and likely more than that. So I approve and please dear god yes I just want a winning season.

it’s funny how so many don’t understand gooddell is literally (and simply) just a puppet. y’all think he’s calling shots lol he’s there to take the shots, including being fired, it will just be next man up

guys this isn’t how football works, you don’t keep rolling over staff, letting the coach make GM hires, letting a twice fired GM (previously journalist) have input… Everything Tepper has done is just ass backwards. Serious question - you all know that right? people who want fit back, you all know that no franchise really functions like this right? Like you’re feeding in that ‘smarter than the rest of nfl and it’s history, we are path maker’ mentality, that has failed so very bad right? because if you do know all that it’s just very odd how our fans react to things like keep staff around/rolling them over, despite why they’re here mot even making sense in the first place like wtf are you guys thinking it just doesn’t make sense. It this a madden franchise mode tactic or something? (I don’t play)

are they still projections tho if they manifest themselves on the field? I’ve also always found it ridiculously odd where someone was from mattered or was a factor in any sense when choosing the best candidate, particularly during the Hurney area, he’d legit trade draft picks just to draft a loser from the area who the fug cares about all that anyway?

Horn being out and Wilks not being HC material are the main reasons we lost, it’s a simple as that.

Second and next years’ first would likely do it, along with swapping this year of course.