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If the Lions were smart, they’d take a top QB in this draft with their high pick and solidify their future with a ton of capital. I wouldn’t rule them out whatsoever. Now trading down and acquiring even more picks? I’d even say that is more likely than not taking a QB.

Isn’t Goffs and Staffords guaranteed money about the same for the remainder? That’s what you have to compare it to and in doing so it looks to be Rams got a slight, short term upgrade for way too much capital. Also looks like Goff could’ve been cut in 2022 without much significance. Then you have to figure Rams are going to extend Stafford... Maybe someone knows about contract number can chime in and break it down @stbugs. I’m trying to see an upside for the Rams other than they now have a QB who can make NFL passes.

Meh, could’ve been a next years first. Still think they weren’t as serious as the other teams and just seeing if they could get him for cheap/feeling out what it’d cost/being ‘involved in every move’ etc.

Not even enough capital to pick up the phone. It isn’t realistic any any sense out outside of EA Sports. You either have your guy at 8 or trade down. From all I’ve heard from Rhule about trading down, being able to hit on more guys with more picks, and the fact he wanted to due it last year, I truly believe is a QB isn’t there at 8 they’re trading down and either take a late QB or figure it out this year. That also matches a long term plan Rhule wants. All this FA trade QB talk is nonsense.

I still think they take one. In perfect position for one and now have the capital for it not to matter. Plus he can sit behind Goff if needed and not only get experience but kill one year of Goffs horrible contract. If Lions get a top QB in the draft and all this capital as well, I have respect for these moves. Smart, setting themselves up for the future.

Lmao Lions are coming out great

I just don’t understand why? We already have a TB for a year for a rookie to sit behind. Is our FO that inept they can’t scout a good QB with a top 10 pick in a QB heavy draft? I’d rather risk a rookie and long term success than maybe 5 years of a aging QB I don’t see going to a super bowl.

Yea you’ll have to hope you can build and entire team from free agency...which is rare. What’s also rare is free agents going somewhere for a QB....99% of the time they follow the money unless they’re old and aging AND can still play at a high level, also rare. Also there won’t be enough money for Moton, Moore, Watson and Robinson. And it seems you’re forgetting the single thing almost all SB contenders of the past 20 years have - a top defense. Sorry but this post sounds like a 15 year old obsessed with Madden who doesn’t understand how things actually work/reality.

Have you read some of the posts here? That is not true at all.

lol I can see why an obsessive Cam fan thinks they took a big gamble but in reality it’s the contrary, they avoided the big gamble and didn’t pay cam the commitment he wanted to stay, and thank god for that they took a small, short term gamble on TB and he has one year left having a losing season/high pick is irrelevant and would’ve happened either way, any somewhat coherent fan already knew this, it’s called rebuilding, it’s the blueprint and Rhule’s MO

Exactly. I am not sure why people on this forum think Watson has all the leverage. It isn’t true at all. There will have to be a compromise between two disgruntled parties...which should be pretty entertaining.

The team is not ready to compete and a vet QB won’t do poo. Fields and Wilson won’t be the only QBs in the draft and someone else WIlLL work out. It’s about the FO doing their homework and due diligence and making the right choice. This year or the next. That’s what we are set up for and I know this shocks all you Madden players but the Panthers might need more than one season to find their franchise QB and do things right.

Lol honestly this philosophy reminds me a lot of how Rivera/Fox would be make it simple, traditional have your man beat the the other guy if not, we lose our way, no adjusting no scheming

Lol cam fans still butthurt No one blasting Watson how he’s treating the Texans just jumping ship after just getting paid and not getting his way - whether you believe he’s justified or not No one blasting players chasing fat contracts or not giving hometown discounts...cause ‘family’ spare me the bullshit ‘it’s a business’ all players seem to understand this chasing fat contracts but when the FO makes business moves that benefit them all of a sudden players are ‘done wrong’

Your buddy? Lol come on man this has happened to all of us.

Watson also loses his chance to continue his career. And is value will go down. Playing time non existent. Worst case scenario he could basically just fade out instead of continue to build on a HOF type career. In my mind, both have a lot to lose by hard balling each other. No doubt there will be a little of that...but like I said before, it’s going to have to be a good deal and compromise for both of them. Which makes sense because there is no benefit for him staying for either party.

Well yea the trade itself is not mutual. I’m sure the Texans want to keep him but since the trade of demanded by Watson doubt they want him there disgruntled. Doesn’t mean they won’t have some say in getting as much as they can for him. There was a good article I read yesterday that said the specific reasons for Watson wanting the trade have not been stated and any team getting him would have to most likely understand and accept that something was going on and they’ll never know the full scope of it and this was the baggage they’d have to accept and hope they don’t piss him off in some way, which is true. If I was a FO looking at Watson I’d want to know as well. Clearly he is this upset about something. Coach hires, trading his friend/best weapon. But NFL is a business and it’s rare you see a franchise QB leave like this. Unfortunately I don’t think we’ll ever know the full details.

The clause restricts him from being traded period. But that is happening because of mutual agreement, and that is the only way it could happen. Watson can say no to a trade because it’s not where he wants to play because of the clause just as the Texans can also say no to a trade because they’re not given what they want. Point is, it’s not as simple as Watson choosing a single team where he wants to play and the Texans MUST comply as people seem to think on this forum. That isn’t going to happen. You don’t draft, invest and develop a player and valuable asset only to just give him away to wherever he says so. Even the Texans aren’t that stupid. And the end of the day Watson will go to a team he is ok playing for and the Texans are ok with what they’re getting in return. And for that to happen Watson will have to give multiple options. And the Texans will determine what capital each will give. That is what’s happening.

Both sides will have to work together. You think Watson is going to risk sitting on the bench the rest of his career because he didn’t give a reasonable list of teams the Texans can get capital for? He is the one who signed the contract and no he’s the one wanting out. The Texas have leverage in the fact they could keep Watson from continuing is career. Houston does have that option and leverage. Again it’s a two way street, both parties will need to benefit. Watson does not hold all the power if he did he would only give the single team he wants to play for most and the Texans would have to accept it, and that team, being his only choice could basically offer pennies for him but he doesn’t have all the Power because the Texans don’t and probably won’t accept that.

Bingo.

That’s not how a clause works. It must be mutual. That trade clause also gives the Texans the ability to not trade him - period. No matter how much he wants out. Watson must work with the Texans in order to be traded and most likely provide a reasonable list of teams. The Texans aren’t simply going to take one single option and whatever the lowest bidder is willing to give because Watson says so. What’s the point in that? They don’t HAVE to trade him. They’d probably go back to Watson and say they’re not trading him because his ONE team won’t give reasonable capital and he’ll need to provide a list of teams. Why is this so hard for people to understand? You think the Texans are seriously just going to say fug what we could get for him let’s let him do whatever he wants for whatever in return lol.

No trade clause has to be mutual, hence the contract. It’s not worthless because the Texas do not have to trade him due to the clause he has. Watson alone cannot break a trade clause agreement. Again, the benefit for Watson is getting on with his career and not being stuck and the benefit for the Texans is being able to pick the highest bidder out of a reasonable amount of teams. Watson can say oh yea I want to go to Miami and the only Miami and that’s final. Then Miami offers a way below market deal...the Texans do not HAVE to say yes, because of the clause. The clause forces both parties to work together for the best of each side. Watson gets the main benefit of not being able to be traded just anywhere sure, but he does not have all the day.

People don’t seem to realize the Texans FO will have some say and Miami and Jets will offer a much better deal.

Yea Watson does not hold all the power, a contract is a contract if Texas really wanted to they could say no to any trade and force him to stay, play or not it’s a two way street, a no trade clause is beneficial for both parties not just Watson. the texans are interested in capital and Watson’s is interested in moving on to continue his career unobstructed what’s most likely happening is the Texans asking for a list of at least 3 realistic teams, that’s what Watson gets Then the Texans pick the highest bidder of said teams, with no regard to whether Watson wants to go to one more than the other, that’s what the Texans get The Panthers would have to be one of those few teams AND outbid the others- I just don’t see that happening

Lol this forum will think they won the super bowl going 4-12 with Watson as the Texans did and no means to build anything around then we can restart all the no weapons, no oline, no coaching, shitty ownership, no support, bias refs, everyone is racist threads from before awesome