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Charlotte isn’t Cleveland and he shouldn’t want that. Where people know their team is a joke and it’s a novelty to attend a game. It’s out of bordem. Being a Browns fan was a topic, not pride. Charlotte comes alive with results. Home games in 2015 and really most seasons with Cam, 2005 Cardinal playoff game where Delhomme shat the bed and melted down was one of the best games I’ve ever been to, and I’ve been to a lot, in a lot of cities.

The refs gave use three. Or four…I forget.

While I wanted Stroud I was ok with the Young pick. I didn’t judge. Not even his first year. No knee jerk reactions. Allowed time to watch him learn. It’s into year three and it’s time. He sucks. It’s true this franchise sucks too obviously with other players AND coaches doing much better after leaving. Unfortunately it’s a severely dysfunctional franchise and the only thing that will save it is a true generational talent at QB that this inept FO actually lucks into picking or high priced elite vet if that is even possible who would come here over other places or Tepper selling or keeling over. Things that are just unlikely to happen. The Panthers are literally the new age Browns.

After the Rhule, Reich, and Canales disasters, the question becomes does Tepper finally seek help to hire someone? Another big issue is the Panthers will have to find a diamond in the rough, desirable coaches will and have turned down coming here. Don’t see that changing.

I was more speaking to physical ability at a base level. Things like speed, muscle and weight can all be improved. Entirely possible, and likely, Murray has better genetics/build but even Murray has admitted to adjusting his training and playing style to fit his physical short comings (no pun intended).

Well we start with the basics, physical ability. Mayfield, Jones and especially Darnold all have that basic. Young does not. Not a total loss, Murray doesn’t either, but it’s one more thing to overcome. Next is mental or ‘celebral’. Awareness. Focus. Being able to read the defense. I don’t believe Young really has any of this either. He’s pretty predictable as a result. Throwing it away on 4th in the red zone for example. Next would be vision. I’d say Young has a little of this. He can be elusive. But he also looks clueless holding on to the ball as long as he does. Toughness is next. I’ll give him this one. He has it. So did Darnold. And Mayfield. He is somewhat resilient, but he will panic. Leadership and confidence seems to be lacking. Taking control. I don’t see it but these things are hard to judge sometimes. All in all I don’t see it. I think aside from being homers people around here only really watch the Panthers. In watching every game I can, even mid QBs look good in comparison. Kind of how Young looked at the end of last year, not elite but competitive. But lastly and over everything, Young has regressed quick and that is probably the biggest thing that separates elite QBs.

Did you watch the game this week or last, he is double and even triple teamed, which should free up everyone else. The problem is almost everyone else is trash. And that’s exactly why other teams do this.

I actually can’t believe it…this team has actually found a way to regress

Um 7 years, multiple players coaches and GM…literally the worst team in the NFL. What is the constant? Tepper makes the hires, he is incompetent and doesn’t get help. Coaches won’t even entertain the idea coming here. Wake up.

Yep, and there is just no fixing that, and not really anything to discuss about it. I think most know this, a few are under this delusion he isn’t at fault. It is what it is, and will be until he is gone. At some point you go through so many coaches, players, and drafts and there is one constant.

Who cares, Tepper is still here, nothing will change.

So who y'all like?

anyone feel like every season now is identical? it’s like every game is the same poo, I could’ve just watched some rando game the past several years all the same

lol how incredibly stupid, this team man just never stops

Injuries aside, not only was CMC a receiver threat he also played with a much MUCH worse oline than Hubbard. I’d be surprised if last year wasn’t Hubbard’s peak.

Works for me. Better than spending all the cap on LBs, TEs and RBs.

Man the panthers really hate speedy guys with hands who can run routes and stretch the field. Their obsession with big slow receiver ‘jump up specialists’ is why they haven’t had more than one receiver consistently worth a damn in their entire history, and he was an accident. Really don’t like the pick. Looks like opposing defenses will continue to defend 10-15 yards and succeed.

I like this, every time we are dubbed to win the preseason it gets worse. Also there isn’t really much room for things to get worse…don’t see it happening. Like the past several years averages like 4 wins or so? So we are talking getting worse like 3 wins instead of 4? What a catastrophe lol

Friendly reminder during FA season that for the past seven years this is slightly arguably the worst team in the NFL. Generally, bad teams overpay for good players. There is literally zero reason for prime/young athlete to play for the Panthers outside of money. Complaining about contracts is nonsense, just be happy a competitive athlete loves money more than winning. It’s our only chance. that is all

Disagree with this. People should remember JR fuged this team hard that year as a business first over winning owner, he was preparing for the lockout, signed no FAs, no help, and extended no one. This team was severely crippled….for a lockout that never happened. But a lot of those players weren’t losers or didn’t know to prepare by any means. Cam and smitty are both beast, competitive players and both are also divas and self centered. We know this more so about smitty and I’d be willing to bet there is a lot about Cam too we just don’t know.

Should be the next goal after the dline imo.

If another teams offers even close to what Surtain got, we should let him go. That is crippling money for a possible player on the historically worst defense in history. That said, he is elite if he’s not hurt and I would love to keep him around so I think a fair deal is to be had. Hopefully his agent isn’t unrealistic given his injuries. If the Panthers can’t make a deal I hope they have learned to trade him for value at least and not do something stupid…especially if he doesn’t want to sign here long term.

I don’t really care. Let Canales do whatever he wants so success…or lack thereof is of his doing. Yes the defense is historically putrid but you gotta let the HC HC.

People play way too much Madden. Even middle of the road LT, and really offensive lineman in general (if you don’t believe he is long term LT) is not easy to find and not cheap. Letting him go would be monumentally stupid. And so it might happen.

I’ve always argued for a better draft pick and explore what you have on the team in poo time when the season is already lost vs a win. However seeing this poo franchise draft like ass and be completely inept for 7 years at this point I will take a win if only to feel a brief moment of relief from misery. We are the new Browns…take every crumb you get, the future is already always bleak with Tepper at the helm.