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I would cream my pants... But I would also like to present the possibility that could it be he was talking to him in regards to an incoming rookie he may be representing?

And tbh, judging from the Thielen signing, it sounds like this staff's MO is once they have a guy in, to make sure he doesn't go anywhere else. Guessing they sold him on the pitch and then have just worked on the details since then.

Tbh, I'm as skeptical as they come, but Twitter has been on fire this offseason with calling our moves before they were official. If this one is true, I am absolutely stoked. I wanted us to take Chark coming out of LSU... If he can finally stay healthy a full season, we are going to be an offensive juggernaut.

Also, even just listening to Thielen, it is clear, the culture shift has already taken place. When was the last time we were linked to the top player at a position in the market, who was viewed as a "contender only" signee, and we actually landed them? And not just a guy on his last leg hoping to ride an already constructed team to a Superbowl... this is different. Thielen is going to be a big time contributor on this team. And the fact he said, "I wasn't planning on going to Carolina," but he did, says all you need to know about the staff that's in the building. Players league-wide will now know, this is a place you want to be a part of. Missed opportunities of years past, like signing Charles Woodson, will be no longer. These guys will want to sign here because they believe in what has been and what is currently being built. This is gonna be fun... I called it earlier in the offseason once the staff started coming together, but we will win a Superbowl under Frank Reich. Period. And I anticipate it will be sooner rather than later.

It's why I have believed in him since day one. The moves we know he has been responsible for have been great value, even when Rhule was here. His willingness and ability to pull off deals, both trades and FA is a gift and an asset... and he's so much different than ehat we've had in the past between egomaniacs (Polian, Gettleman) and guys who outside of first rounders just seemed to go through the motions (Hurney). Fitt is a asset. Period. Love what he's building.

I haven't commented on his signing yet, but I love it. And for everyone that eas saying he was washed, the dude is like 2 or 3 years removed from being considered one of the absolute best receivers in football. It's not coincidental that his touches and production dropped when they drafted Jefferson, who is currently projecting as thr best receiver to ever play in the NFL. That is nothing to sneeze at. And yet, as the other thread pointed out, he was still getting significant separation regularly, he simply wasn't getting the targets he got before Jefferson got there. The dude is only 32, with no significant injury history, and again, is only a few years removed from being considered one of, if not the best receiver in football. And he still an immaculate route runner... those guys tend to be able to play quite awhile. This was a huge signing... if we somehow find a way to get Chark and then add whatever we get in the draft in addition to the franchise QB, I'm thinking floor is NFCG.

Loved MJ as a player, but he's been complete ass as an owner. Sadly, I don't think him selling is going to make much of a difference. Unfortunately, I've accepted this franchise is not ever going to be good or a perennial contender.

If we did all of this to trade up and we end up drafting Bryce Young, I may hang myself.

I really think the WR corps is going to surprise this coming season. Be it Stroud or Richardson, I anticipate the offense is just gonna be about getting it out quick and letting guys do the damage once the ball is in their hands, with occasional bombs. I think for the first time in a very, very long time, we are going to have a system that makes our players better versus us always having been reliant on the players to make up for the lack of a system/coaching in the past. And any of the guys being talked about will fit just fine in Reich's system and with how he plans on using the rookie QB.

I dont think we do. Even with Rhule being the final word, Fitt still seemed to be able to have some influence on who was brought in at times, and especially if he had a previous link to guys, and we didn't show any interest before he went to the Browns. I'd like to see it at the right price, but I just don't think we will.

I actually might be more intrigued by Miles Sanders than Jamaal Williams. Williams is an incredible human being and great ambassador and leader, but I think he's fairly limited as a player.

Hardman + Thielen + Schultz/Geisecki + secondary TE like a Bratte.

If we could find a way to double up like we did with year 1 Cam and get a Olsen plus Shockey, that would be even sweeter.

Still wild Rhule started him over Boze and tried to convince everyone ad it was going on that he was playing great and was the better option. I'm just still dumbfounded how anyone tied to the organization sat through that idiocy without saying a word challenging it. Just unreal.

Would really like something like Thielen and Geisecki/Schultz for WR and TE.

I will be excited for Stroud. I will be ecstatic if we take AR. I know Stroud is the most polished coming out, but the potential with AR, under this staff, is astronomical.

I think if anything, the CMC deal last year shows just how easy it is to replace RB production, no matter how uniquely talented they are. If I'm the Chargers and can get a 3rd rounder for him, I do that in a heartbeat and never look back.

Damn, Boze gave us a sweetheart deal. He really did like it here.

Good post. DJ has been one of my favorite players since we drafted him, and I'm definitely gonna miss him. The brightside for him though is now he's gonna get the love he deserves as one of the best receivers in the league.

I like Shaq, but he's been fairly underwhelming for his career. Glad he's staying as he is a solid guy though... That being said, when this offseason started, I never expected that 2023 roster would include Shaq, but not DJ.

Damn. I thought he was just speculating. Then again, we could just be posturing through Person to bait the Texans into a deal.

But that's my issue, Scot. I'm not a scout or FO guy, but I've had a pretty phenomenal background projecting greatness here over the years before we picked, and I could be wrong, but I do NOT think Bryce Young is a franchise QB. Apparently people in our building do. I disagree. I could see him getting off to a quick start and then regressing to a baseline of middling career starter to a floor of Seneca Wallace. To me, if we're at #1 or #2, it's gotta be Stroud or bust. If they're wanting Stroud or even considering him an option, I'm not trading.

It's weird. I feel like you only trade to #1 if there is one specific guy you actually covet. So I think our FO and staff know exactly who they want and who they traded up there for. So, that's where I disagree with Person here... I don't think they traded there with the idea they like "more than one." They traded for THE ONE they like. Now, that being said, I only see us trading back if we have solid Intel that the Texans aren't interested in the guy we want. If that is the case, I'm taking that 12th pick and running Zay Flowers or Hyatt's card up to the podium. No hesitation.

I've been thinking about Laviska a lot more lately... I'm thinking he stays and has an expanded role here. To me, he is the perfect weapon/receiver for a rookie QB... typically with rookie QBs, the first year, they try to get them in a scheme where they arent holding the ball too long so there are less variables that can go wrong and they are able to get the ball out quick and let the receivers do damage after the catch. That is perfect for Laviska, and from the small sample size we saw last season, I could see Laviska functioning as a borderline #1/Deebo-type of receiver in that type of offense. I still don't understand why they didn't get the ball to him more on simple stuff like drags, meshes, stacks, etc. last year, because if you ask me his ability to make explosive plays per touch HAS to be one of the best in the league.

I wouldn't be surprised if we end up trading back a spot or two and picking up some picks. That's Fitt's style. He's a wheeler and dealer. If he knows the #2 or 3 won't take the guy we want, he'll trade back. As far as players, I don't think we'll be dealing anyone else. Premium is on QBs, Ts, Edge guys, and WRs, and out of our tradeable assets, we have Burns who would command the most in a trade, but both he, his brother, and guys around the team have already said we were working on an extension with him. So that's not happening.