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I love Ocho. Seems like a genuinely good dude and loved what he brought to the game. FWIW, I asked him if he thought Bryce Young was the real deal during a instagram live during Bryce’s rookie year (because obviously Bryce was not looking very good), and he said he believed in Bryce and he was gonna be great, to give it time.

It’s interesting bc I had started getting these videos popping up on my Facebook feed like Saturday from these guys, I think they’re with nbc sports, but they’re supposed to be knowledgeable guys who break down film and the first video I saw was them pretty much trashing our receiving corps and one of the things they said about TMac was that he only lines up at X. Welp…

Now the question is: why weren’t they already doing that?

I still have no idea outside of pure adrenaline how he got up from that hi-lo hit where he got bent backwards yesterday.

The “lack of” was more noticeable in this game than the last few weeks. Not sure why, but ATL blocked everything up really well, and just from memory, it didn’t seem like we sent much extra pressure outside of 4. We will definitely need more of it against SF. They’ll be getting the ball out quick and Purdy is annoyingly elusive and mobile. Also, again, I really want to see Princely get more reps.

And that falls right in line with the several times he has chucked it away or grounded it on 4th downs in the past. But, I guess that is Zavala’s fault too. The amount of passes he gets for inexcusable poo has been ridiculous. Again, I have and will give him props when he has played well. The most frustrating thing among many about him since he’s been here is him being so risk-averse that he refuses to give guys legitimate chances to make a play, even when that should be the only option (like 4th downs). And yet, he creates mistakes that shouldn’t be possible on the most basic, conservative, run-of-the-mill plays -i.e., the interception to the sideline last week against NO, the Jessie Bates interception fest, the numerous fumbles on basic tackles or without even contact, etc.

Same. I really hope Bryce turned a corner, but life as a Panthers fan means I’ve been burned too many times to believe the best-case scenario. But, man, how dope would this be if these guys figure it out. No more checking out, no more not showing up. Play like you want to fuging win and leave nothing in the tank every week.

I was happy to see Cherelus pull it together towards the end because he was a huge minus early on. They were going right at him early. Those big hits late made a difference. I still have hope for him. Also, I’ve been saying it all year, but Princely needs more snaps. That hit on the kickoff was big time. He seems to have a knack for making plays ven though his snaps are limited. Also wanted to add, Ransom would’ve been perfect in a game like this. I really wish they would quit bullshitting with Nick Scott and go ahead and start Ransom when he’s back. Richardson should even be ahead of Scott.

Tremble is that guy on offense. I really wish we would find more ways to keep him out there.

Sounds like you’re just caping because I have already stated my intent when I posted. Was it hyperbolic? Sure. But that’s what’s fun about this board. I don’t need validation. I’ve been posting what I think, good or bad, for years. In my everyday life, I speak my truth and stand on that. I don’t care about validation, affirmation, or popularity. I enjoy the discussion, good or bad. If you re-read, I didn’t say I’ve never seen a QB get stepped on. I said I’ve never seen one, to the best of my memory, have that happen in that fashion on a 4th down and then lay there like the MedAlert lady. And I said I brought up that play because again, how often do you see other QBs have that happen? How often do you see QBs who are “super processors” decide to throw a ball out the back of an end zone on 4th and goal to go? How often do you see them get squared up with a defender and fumble before even getting hit like a scared child? He does poo that other QBs NEVER do. Some have, but they don’t stick around for long. The good ones NEVER do this poo. And that’s the problem. And again, yes, Zavala is a fuging chode and played his part in that play… but I go back to Bryce and his limitations and this being an ongoing issue. It’s like if it’s not him fuging up, someone will because Bryce is out there.

I disagree. And it’s not to be edgy. I feel like this thread used a single play to illustrate a years-long problem, and that is verifiable. The vast amount of his body of work is subpar. The amount of his “wtf was that?” plays are more than any player I have ever watched. The opportunities he’s been given to commit that amount of plays is also more than any player I can remember. To come out one week and throw for 450 yards and 3 TDs is awesome, but then what about the games like last week against the Saints? It’s not an agenda. It’s rooted in fact. I praised him a couple weeks ago in a thread after a game for playing his best game I had seen him play as a pro. And then again, as I previously said, he comes out and lays an egg like no rotten egg ever seen before on what should have been a gimme of a game. As good as this win feels and as cool as it is that he had the box score he had today, the issue with him is consistency. So for all the “this thread didn’t age well” comments floating because we won and our team as a collective was able to overcome those flubs and turnover on downs, in part because ATL is ass, one week to the next you never know what you’re gonna get with Bryce. I’m hoping for the best, but do I believe we’ll be closer to the mean or worse? Yes.

The irony is the vast majority of this board are long-suffering Panthers fans. It is inherent in the nature of it being a message board. We are a prehistoric relic of glory days past. The new fans are all on Reddit, discord, and all that other poo.

Again, it’s not about that single play. Me saying that defines his era is reflective of 2.5 years of work. Yes, Zavala played a big part in that failure of a play, but as the commentators mentioned, Bryce also has to get tf back as soon as he snaps it. He has always had more issues operating from under center as well. That all ties in to the fact that for over 2.5 years, he has these inexplicable plays that you never see happen anywhere else. I’ve been on this Earth four decades and watching or playing football for three of them, and I do not recall ever seeing that happen before. Have I seen someone fumble the snap on 4th? Yes. Have I seen someone try to escape pressure after getting the snap and falling over or flailing around until they were sacked? Sure. Throw a pick? Yes. Fumble after getting the snap? Yes. Lots of bad things can and have happened. Not even getting out from under the center, falling on your back, then looking like you can’t figure out how to get up until you’re touched down? Never. So even when other players are involved in the fug ups since Bryce has been the QB, the point is, it’s some intangible quality that is present with him at QB. Things happen that shouldn’t happen. Inexplicable fug ups are the norm. And again, I fully considered we had 3+ mins and the defense was playing well when I posted it. I even believed that with the way Bryce was playing outside of the 4th down flubs, that it was likely we could win… and I am ecstatic we won. But again, the point of this thread is the play was representative of a much bigger and persistent problem. Look how great we felt after getting over .500 and then had a gimme win at home against a fuging 1-8 team. Bryce comes out and doesn’t even show up while getting outplayed by several magnitudes against a 27 year old 2nd round pick in his second start. That is fuging inexplicable and should never fuging happen. Brian St. Pierre would’ve looked like fuging Joe Montana in that scenario. Dameyune Craig would’ve looked like Mahomes. But it was like Bryce didn’t even show up. That’s where this thread comes from. As good as winning today feels, do I trust him to come back out and do it again next week, or ever again? Absolutely not. And that’s the problem.

We just need him to see every team as Atlanta/Henry Winkler. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, Canales, is just that simple.

I was gonna say the same thing in the game thread. It’s ridiculous. And every team we have faced just move their #1s around and go after Mike all day.

I knew we still had time to come back when I posted it, Scot. I have no regrets. The point remains whether we win or not. He has the most embarrassing mistakes and fails I’ve ever seen by a Panthers QB. And not only for our franchise, you can watch an entire season worth of other teams’ games and not once see a QB do the inexplicably bad things Bryce does in games. Falling over in a 4th down and making no effort to make some kind of play? Throwing it away on 4th and goals. Fumbling on basic tackles where the defender didn’t even go for the ball. It happens far too often to count. And again, today, that game was way more of a nail biter than it needed to be because of the mistakes he made. Our TEAM had to overcome plays such as that 4th down. And the 4th down where they trusted Bryce to run a bootleg more than they trusted the RB to gain 1 yard and Bryce, of course, failed and slung down like a child. The defense bailed him out, because technically, he didn’t turn the ball over, but those two turnovers on 4th downs are turnovers. Thankfully, Atlanta sucks. Again, credit to Bryce for making the plays he did when he did, but those moments and games are aberrations, not the norms . But I am ecstatic we won.

Keep Pounding, brother.

2.5+ years of limpdick quarterbacking. Let’s revisit your post hoc gloating next time he has another Saints performance. Where were you last week?

Thread still stands. Props to Bryce for the plays he made when he made them today, but that game shouldn’t have even been that close. And respect for gutting it out, but:

I’ve posted for years that Tommy is a fuging ball player, he just needs the looks. He is a fuging dawg!!!

And Fitz. fuging ballers.

I don’t like going into fuging goal line and playing for the FG.

Boooooa, Rico has earned his damn check today. poo is rough.

TAWMY fuging TREMBLEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! I fuging love that guy!

We’ve gotta have a tell on runs.