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Dk about the Dolphins, but he definitely seems to be interested in the Jets, as Watson himself liked the post linking him to the Jets. Regardless of Saleh being there, if Watson legit wants out of Houston just to go to NYJ, then sadly, he will get what he deserves. Saleh is a great coach, but that organization is horribly dysfunctional. And if part of Watson's issue is the culture in the front office in Houston, I don't think he's done much research on Woody Johnson lol. This could be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of... but, Watson has been in NY recently and I'm not sure, but I think his agent may be based out of there, so he might be being steered up there by him with the old false hope of him getting better exposure in that market. Smh...

It does, but we also had a coach who had no idea how to identify talent or develop it when we went through that situation with Cam. Rhule showed an ability to do those things in year one more than any coach/staff had before him. That's really why I support going after Watson regardless of the expected cost (which I dont think will be as high as many anticipate).

Not me at all. He is a winner, and is one of the few players in the league who can will his team to wins like Cam did. I only care about winning, and he will put us on the fast track to doing so with the staff and players in place here. The popularity and interest it would bring is just an additional bonus I mentioned.

And CMC is a running back coming off a season he only played in a couple of games due to injuries. RBs shelf life is already among the shortest in the league by position as it is, and we just paid CMC way more than a RB should ever occupy from a cap perspective... I'd much rather pay Moore with the majority of the offensive cap allocated to Watson, Moore, Anderson, and tackles. Look at teams who have built their offense around RBs with huge contracts and look how it panned out. I love CMC, but if someone's gotta go, it would be him due to all these factors listed.

While I agree it's steep and injuries could ruin any team, it's a risk I want to take. Scared money don't make money, and he is a bona-fide top 3 QB in this league not even in his prime yet with local ties that will skyrocket national and local interest and re-energize the fanbase.

Considering how dysfunctional they are, I could see them easily viewing CMC as a star to replace Watson with. But, tbh, I honestly think speculation about player for player swaps is fairly asinine to begin with. In trades for big time players, it usually almost always only involves draft picks. And if that's 2 firsts and some seconds, or 3 firsts and filler for Watson, that's fine with me.

In hindsight, I don't blame Tepper for keeping Rivera, even if it was the wrong decision at the time. And as many of you know, I'm not much for patience lol. I think Rivera's rep off the field preceded him and endeared him to many, making it hard for Tepper to come in and fire him immediately, even though most of the fanbase, myself included, wanted just that. It could've looked hasty and harsh for Tepper to come in and make that move, so not doing so, especially with his background, is actually a credit to him. And now, being able to publicly acknowledge that mistake will bid well for him when similar decisions need to be made down the road. *ahem, Teddy* And speaking of Teddy, and Tepper's allusion to Wilson being a QB that can get you where you need to go. I still want to know whose decision that was, because again, most football savvy folk here and everywhere else knew Teddy was, at-best, a game manager. That fact alone was indicative of what he would be here in a best case scenario, so the idea that anyone thought he would come in and will us to win games like Cam in his prime still blows my mind. I really wish they would have at least let Cam play out his final year of his contract... Now, if Tepper can somehow land Watson, that will go a long way to repairing the mistakes made this previous offseason. All in all, I'm excited.

I have to say, it's my opinion that the Texans have next to little leverage in this. They can't pick the suitor because Watson has the no-trade clause. If he announces that he has asked for a trade publicly, that further undermines their leverage. And much like the previous franchise player-involving trades, the team thats losing said player most often just has to take the best package of future assets, not current ones. If all we offer is draft picks, that's what they have to take, and if they don't they risk Deshaun just sitting out for nothing anyway, or much like Harden did in the NBA with the Rockets, making things so miserable around there that they are forced to deal him with even less leverage than they would have initially and ultimately sending him where he wanted to go in the first place in the process.

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I dont want to trade any of our core guys, and if we could retain everyone offensively and add Watson, that will put us way ahead of the game... but, if we were forced, and as talented as CMC is, at the end of the day, he's a RB, and you can find ways go replace that production a lot easier than you can at Burns or Moore's spot.

Oh no, I know it's been bad recently, and they definitely have rode Wilson to more wins he's pulled out of his ass than he should have, but I'm believing in the big hits they've gotten in spite of the misses, and the aggressiveness for upgrades through FA and Trades Fitterer alluded to today.

Well, as I pointed out in my above post, the good news is, Seattle killed it during his tenure there in maximizing value in the middle to late rounds of the draft, they had numerous all-pros, with a couple even coming out of the 5th round, and of course they got their franchise QB in the 3rd. And as bad as a rep as they have at first round picks, when you hit like that and develop talent on the later picks, it really doesn't matter. Same thing with NE. Belichick has been notoriously bad in the first round, and also has always had a penchant for trading back and out, yet they develop lower round talent and UDFAs that make up for the busts in the earlier rounds (it doesn't hurt to have the greatest coach/cheater the game has ever seen either lol). So, that has been my feeling all along... if you know you're getting a sure thing in a trade using your first rounders, you do it, especially if your staff has a knack for developing talent regardless - which Rhule showed the ability to do even in year one... and now we have Fitterer in the mix coming from Seattle's school of thought? I am excited as I've ever been moving forward.

Pelissero: Expect new Panthers GM Scott Fitterer to be 'aggressive' this offseason https://www.nfl.com/videos/pelissero-expect-new-panthers-gm-scott-fitterer-to-be-aggressive-this-offseason

I know this is what Fit is saying now, and I'm genuinely excited about the hire, but I'm curious who was making the majority of the decisions in Seattle? Because their offensive line had long been regarded as one of the worst even after they drafted Wilson. Their defensive line has always kind of been a potluck of "ok" vets and young guys that never really pan out to their full potential. It seemed their scheme was heavily based on the secondary, defensively. So, I'm wondering how much input he had there if that has always been his philosophy? I've really liked everything he has said thus far, but I'm just curious as to why it seems Seattle's setup wasn't representative of his philosophy.

While I agree on the principle, it's interesting him saying that considering many of Seattle's top players while he was there were guys that they passed over at least once while not doing so well in the first round lol (Wilson, DK, Lockett, Sherman, Kam, Wagner, etc.). So I guess that's good and bad?

Finally. This is good. Really good.

I hope he just likes the idea of being traded. Who tf would want to go to the Jets?

I like him better than Tae at this point. He reminds me of a DWade-lite, except he is a tremendous shooter. I think he is a great foundational piece along with Hayward, Melo, and now Bridges. I prefer Terry over Tae because he seems more consistent, a better a defender, and more of a dog in key moments.

TBH, I'm starting to think the testing itself is unreliable, both for the antibodies and the virus itself. My wife is a therapist and staff supervisor at a skilled nursing facility and they had the virus rip through there starting somewhere around March. Obviously with the patient demographics, they had quite a few patient deaths. But interestingly enough, just about the entire staff got it as well, and despite quite a few having preexisting conditions such as BP, obesity, older age, etc., all fully recovered within 2 weeks or so. They got it under control there now... all that being said, my wife directly spoke with, made contact with, and sat in rooms with patients and other therapists who were confirmed to have it within the incubation time period after their interaction, and yet, my wife has been tested multiple times and they have all came back negative. She then volunteered for an antibody study and also came up negative for that. I just find it almost impossible that she and our family havent already had it, considering. Even the lab techs told her they recently switched their tests because the ones they were using before were turning up "too many" positives - which I'm assuming they meant false positives. I also have a friend who is an ER nurse in one of the five boroughs in NY, and all his tests have been negative, but he thought he already had it as well. I just wonder if the virus is so new, the test manufacturers are still working out the kinks themselves in what they're trying to detect. Idk, just thinking out loud... it's the only sense I can make of situations like that and seeing stories of even pro athletes testing positive then negative, then positive again weeks apart while being asymptomatic. Also, as an aside, I recently read that certain strains of corona that cause the common cold were shown to give people who recovered from it some degree of immunity to COVID-19. So, I wonder if that also plays into what these tests are hitting and missing on?

Yeah, was just posing the possibility, mostly out of hope for a best-case scenario. Still, in realizing the full scope of what's going on, my wife is a therapist at a SNF and if I went off of what has taken place there, it is clear they are dealing with something new that wasn't around in December. But yeah, my curiosity stemmed from both stories of people I know - a college classmate's children both came down with a horrible upper respiratory infection that required hospitalization and oxygen supplementation back in December, and the doctors could not figure out what it was, as both tested negative for flu and eventually fully recovered - and an article I read in the New York Times recently about multiple similar cases in California from late last year... combining those things with the news that they have confirmed some people died of the virus as early as February. Again, I guess it's just wishful thinking - hoping that we're past the peak... Just wishful thinking, man... maybe "hard to believe" wasn't the right phrasing... I want to believe it was here earlier so that we're likely through the worst of it. And I'm well aware of the contagiousness, as that is what separates it from everything else we're accustomed to at this point, but I was saying if looking at it from the possibility that this is the second wave, then couldn't it be possible that there were a few cases here and there late last year, but it took time to spread to such a degree that we now see in NY? And as far as the travel thing, you're right... I forgot when I wrote that, most of the US strains came from Italy... Regardless, I'm not purporting to be an expert of have any more knowledge about it then the next man... again, I was just asking for the sake of hope, that we're on the other side of it.

Anyone think this could be the second wave we're currently in? I've read many an article and even know some people directly who believe they may have had it back in December. I just find it hard to believe that as much as people freely travel that it wasn't here much earlier. I suspect in a place like NY, that it was slowly percolating to the point that it got to now, and that took time. Also, read an article out of the UK yesterday that a former director of WHO said he predicts the virus will actually naturally burn out on its own by the time that the vaccine will be available.

I'll have to look again, but whichever source I read earlier specifically said they were developing symptoms again, because when I read it, it seemed pretty troubling.

@R0CKnR0LLA https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea-idUSKCN21S15X

Just read an article today that said in SK, they are now seeing a wave of recovered patients who were testing negative "relapse" and are now testing positive and developing symptoms again. This is crazy....