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Somebody had to stir the poo, and he is just the guy to do it. We need more of what we got today... it's the reason Meyer ended up getting canned - because the media kept pressing and stuff kept leaking exposing just how miserable and insufferable he was as a human being. They kept digging and finding more and more examples of how he was creating a toxic culture within their building and in their organization... one that made them unappealing, both to the public and to prospective employees. And that could not be allowed to continue. It's clear in the product on the field and in the pressers, just as it was with Meyer and the Jags, that dysfunction is pervasive and evident in every aspect of this organization. The same forensics that pointed to Meyer's failings time and again are evident everywhere you look here with Rhule - the difference has been, we haven't had the hard-hitting, damning first-hand leaks to corroborate it and get the ball rolling on getting him tf out of here. Now, some of that was Meyer's fault, speeding the process up himself, bc players like Lambo, who was the nail in the coffin, were jilted and had no incentive to keep quiet about their experience. Also, the lapdance incident and then the internal leaks he was forced to acknowledge all cumulatively resulted in his undoing. We are just now starting to get the first-hand leaks and seeing the cracks in the outer facade. But, with Person's report, it is speeding the process up, as we needed... we just need more of it. Because it is putting the pressure on Tepper, much as the media did with Khan, to acknowledge his mistake (Rhule) and move on from it. We're on the precipice of what we need with this report breaking on the heels of his worst presser ever where he awkwardly compared himself to Jay-Z and cited a Fresh Prince meme, while telling the world his process is working, we're just too dumb and green to see it... Keep it up, Joe! We need you, big dog!

Yeah, I and don't understand the "expect 2022 to be his last year" line? If that is already the verdict, than why tf are we bringing him back? It's a complete waste of a season and pointless. So, again, if this is the decision Tepper is making, he has decided to punt an entire year of time, assets, resources, etc., to only be in a worst position in 2023. It makes absolutely zero sense. He just doesn't care about winning if that is the case. And to piggyback off another point Person made in the article about Rhule's credibility in the locker room - I have seen and heard things guys like Reddick and Walker have said about him, when asked THIS YEAR, and I have always prided myself on my ability to read non-verbal cues and body language. I consider it a gift... pairing that with the words they actually said, and they actually seem very uncomfortable in their relationships with him. At the very least, they seem cold and distant. Not the type of feelings you would expect for cornerstones of your college programs who made it to the pros to feel towards their coach who has been with them in both levels. I mentioned it before, but I was watching a Panthers Huddle episode from the preseason some months back now, and they had a clip from a presser with PJ, and he was asked what it was like to play for Rhule in the pros and such... and his answer was less than flattering. He didnt intend for it to be that way. In fact, he seemed very forthcoming, but it didn't come off well at all. He said something along the lines of, "once the guys get here and get past all of the college stuff" they do fine. That line stuck with me. PJ has been with other pro teams. He may have even been the league MVP in the XFL had they been allowed to finish their season.... he's seen how other pro organizations operate. To say something like that about any pro coach is fairly damning, IMO. And in general, when his college guys are asked about him, they seem like they prefer to avoid it and I haven't seen one vouch for his character or for him as a coach. Cam is the only guy I have heard do it, and Cam would do it no matter who the coach is because that's who he is... But the guys who have spent years and time with him, they don't seem all that loyal or attached to him. When they have to answer questions about him, there seems to be an instant shift in their demeanor, like you would expect from someone when they genuinely don't like someone but they have to put up with them. Now, why they would sign up to come play for him in the case of like Reddick? Idk, but I'm certain there is something there.

It Took Jay-Z Seven Years To Become An Overnight Sensation, LLC has a nice ring to it.

@Zod? It would be groundbreaking for a current coach to get the filter while he's still here. But, I want to watch the world burn.

I would absolutely love to get curbstomped like 77-0. And thanks to Fhule and Darn-Cold, we have a shot.

Good thing I watched my last game of the Rhule era last week. Funny how suddenly there is no certainty of a multi-QB system now that he has his golden child bust, sorry ass loser of a QB, that he handpicked, at the helm again. fug Fatt Fhule. You're a fuging joke and I wish you nothing but professional failure in the remaining years you coach, you fat bitch.

Sean Payton has an eye for talent with untapped potential to be developed... meaning, he would not do this trade.

Didn't know that's what it was, because I don't deem that ok. I'll have to look it up. I was just speaking to what I know of him since he got into coaching and strictly in terms of what he offered in that capacity. I'll also say, I don't excuse that behavior at all, but I still think people can change and grow.

I know he had got in trouble when he was younger, but I believe in second chances and it seems he is believed in and really well-liked universally, so I am inclined to think those things are behind him. But good point about the dynamic with Cam. Hadn't thought about that report since that interview cycle.

I still wanted Bienemy.

I know we as fans don't bear the weight of responsibility of having to actually carry out the poo we scream out from week to week - like firing people. And often times, we just do it to express an emotion, knowing we don't expect it to happen or believe that it should, but rather just to reflect our feelings about something in the moment. I know I do it. I think we all do at various points, and more often than not, don't mean it... That being said, even while operating with that in mind, this was one of those times where we do mean it, and we have every right to. And as such, this was the one big measuring stick for me about Tepper. I won't hold him accountable for being methodical and measured with what he inherited, although maybe those parties didn't deserve that amount of consideration. For example, I wanted him to can Ron as soon as he got here and bring in a GM to at least work alongside Hurney from the beginning... but, I understood being prudent. He didnt want to seem impulsive. I get it. But, again, Rhule was his choice. And so, this decision was where my accountability for him truly started, and if he is indeed leaving him employed, he has failed miserably... and its not looking good for the future if this is his process and approach. We have a coach and staff who are failing miserably at their jobs, with no signs of any progress whatsoever. Nothing to hang your hat on moving forward. The only thing delineating Rhule from Meyer is that Meyer physically assaulted a player... and thats a pretty low bar to have to hit to maintain employment.

In another similar situation, I would agree that this is the blueprint to fix our woes... But truth is, it won't. Not as long as Rhule is here. The offense is so broken and the philosophy is so arcane, you literally could trade for Aaron Rodgers, and draft all starter-caliber players on the OL, and unless they give Rodgers full autonomy and power of the offense and playcalls, we would still manage to win only about 5 games a season as long as Rhule is here.

RIP to a true legend. He got me addicted to football and was the gateway to me studying and learning the game from an early age. An icon. And it's crazy that the documentary on him just dropped this past weekend, IIRC, and he passed within days of it.

Told yall. RR has spoken. We're stuck in fan hell for at least another year.

I think as long as Seimien (sp?) or Hill play, they will beat us... unless Payton pulls the old "no! Please don't beat us! We really want to win, I promise!" showing like he did a couple years back on Rivera... if they're playing to win and anybody but Book is playing, they will easily whoop our ass.

I dont believe it simply because I just don't understand why if Tepper already knows Rhule is dead meat, what is the point in keeping him around the last two weeks? Wouldn't you want to get a head start on the next candidate ASAP?

I read his excuse was that he accidentally must've liked it while having his phone in his pocket during mass. Lol... It almost makes you want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but being you're the GM of an NFL team, why would you be that deep into other people's tweets that you could randomly like any of them... he had to have already clicked on that tweet or a thread linking to it to even accidentally like it. I feel bad for Jimmy, lol.

It's definitely pushed the envelope as far as it can go.

And if that's the case... I'll start watching and attending again when he's gone.

I said it in another thread, but watching that live was so cringe. The reference was awkward, out of place, and just seemed like a throwaway from someone who has no effing idea what they're talking about. Dude is out here trying to give us Jay-Z bio bullet points but when he was asked earlier in the season in a presser what is the one concert he would want to go see if he had the choice of any performer, he said Dave Matthews Band. I'm not trying to stereotype, but I have a feeling the guy who considers DMB as a lifetime bucket list experience isn't all that well-versed in Jay-Z, nor Roc-A-Fella's (the "agency" he referenced) origin stories... but, hey, the freshmen at Baylor ate it up! I'm sure it will work here, too! You can't make this poo up.

He told us, man! We lost our ST ace and 4th WR with no notice! And our #2 corner (although I still have no idea who he was referring to there? Bouye?)! And our guys still showed up and held them to under 60 points, and we drove right down the field two different times and kicked some legit FGs, bro. Like he said, the defense could've came out and said, "the offense is terrible today," and let the Bucs score two more TDs. But they didn't! They only let them score 32 points. Not 46. It's under the surface, man. The process. It's too bad you don't see it.

But, like he tells the guys all the time, Jay-Z took seven years to become an overnight sensation.

Yup, that whole presser was an absolute trainwreck of the highest magnitude. Revealed a lot about him and what he thinks of himself. Imagine you working a job, absolutely sucking and by all observable metrics are failing miserably at it, and then telling the people that evaluate you, "It's working. You just can't see it. There's a process underneath the results. I'm sorry you can't see it yet. But, it's 1000 percent working."