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TBH, it sucks bc Zane was having such a good year, but I don't think we'll be on their side of the field very often for it to matter.

I'm sure a lot of these guys have done it back in HS and such and prolly are pretty good at it practicing even now. But doing it in a game is different, and professional kickers practice it every day for hours... I just can't imagine us even trying it unless its from like 20 yards and in, and I doubt even then.

Welp, gonna be hard not to do that "embarrass us" part when our kicker had a potentially season-ending non-contact injury in pregame warm-ups while fuging KICKING. We just can't win.

Schefter said Lachlan Edwards, Reggie Bonnafon, and other may have a shot at kicking today but we'll probably end up going for two. He made no mention of kickoffs, but I imagine Edwards will be doing that as well, and I also imagine it will be a complete trainwreck. We just can't win. The one consistent bright spot we had all year outside of maybe Reddick and DJ and he gets injured in pregame wampups.

You sir, better be glad you don't bag groceries for a living, or he'd really let you have it!

But the moves he's made in terms of value outside of the ones we know Rhule dictated have been incredible. Darnold was all Rhule, Fitt just did what he had to do to get Rhule's guy. Outside of Darnold, the moves he made in the draft, the guys he drafted, and the other trades outside of maybe Henderson, which still has a chance to be a win for us, have been incredible. Rhule is the fuging poo stain that is ruining all of it. Fitt has a great eye for talent, along with the other personnel guys we brought in. He knows value. And he seems to have good relationships built and established with other FOs across the league, which is another invaluable asset to have in your FO. It's Rhule being the "final word" on acquisitions that is fuging us royally. It is Rhule and Rhule alone who is seeking out Teddy, Sam, Cam Erving, etc. I'm convinced Fitterer's mad genius will truly show once we get a fuging professional level coach in here who doesn't want to trade the farm for best-case game managers who consistently grade out in the bottom third of the league starters at their position - all because they had a friendly exchange and a good conversation a couple years back.

Maybe he wasn't "forced" per se, but I definitely think he was nudged quite a bit. Sheena Quick all but said it was Tepper's decision, so idk... and again, just reading the tea leaves in front of us now in how he is managing the situation with Cam and things he is saying, it definitely seems like he isn't embracing him here.

Icy. Cam is completely professional and a great teammate from all we've heard and seen from both here and NE. But, Rhule is clearly not a fan. I do believe Cam was forced onto the team by Tepper and although Rhule acts publicly supportive, he doesn't like having him on the roster. It's a reminder of his own failures and mistakes. I also feel as a result of those underlying feelings, he is setting Cam up to fail in many ways. I mentioned it Sunday, iirc, but he literally left Darnold in the game with a broken shoulder to throw 3 picks and have like 2 fumbles against NE, and left him in the entire game against NYG despite having not gained a single first down for the entirety of the game - but he pulls the "2 QB system" once we get Cam on the roster... which again, is asinine, because despite all of the offensive struggles, Cam has still been the most productive and the best QB we've played for 2 years. I also just saw two quotes this morning that further cement he is an asshole and his relationship with Cam is horrible to non-existent - he told reporters that he doesn't prefer the two-QB system, but "it's where we are" currently or something like that. Then PJ was even asked about it in a presser and he said he didn't like it (even though he's the guy that has the most to gain from it), because neither guy can get into a rhythm and defenses are going to show them different things, so its not beneficial to either guy. Now pair that with him activating Sam from IR, and that tells you all you need to know. He's a smug, arrogant, know-it-all asshole who sees Cam as a threat to his football mastermind identity. He's a fuging imbecile of the highest order.

Per Schefter. If they can do it, why can't we?

Cam should've just fell on the ball and lived to play another down. Simple. Oh... wait...

Yikes

But see, there's a couple of points here to be made: Number one, Mathieu is a highly accomplished player and one of the more renowned defensive playmakers in the league. He has won. He has made winning plays. He affects games in his team's favor on the regular. So, he has the gravitas to make that point if he feels that way, because his production, effort, and ability can't be questioned. It's coming from a proven player. Secondly, while they may be one of the most toxic when they're losing, they're also considered one of the most raucous, energetic, and loyal fanbases in the league. They love their team and are just as emotive on the positive end when things are going well as they are negative when its going badly... difference is, they don't go badly often for them, so Mathieu didn't like it. But, you can't have it both ways... great fanbases are going to be passionate in both directions. So if they don't want the negative, you shouldn't get the positive either. And guess what? They started winning again and all of a sudden things are all peachy between the players and fans again. Now, Derrick Brown is unproven, fairly unproductive this season, mostly absent, and just came off a benching after, despite usually being the largest human being on the field, constantly finding himself face-down lying on the field while the other team was gashing us for 20 yard runs for weeks on end. He has absolutely zero capital to give any weight to any take he could offer, other than "I have to be better." But, looks like he's on "brand" with the rest of Rhule's culture.

Also, good as time as any to post one of the greatest related spots ever:

Welp, add Derrick Brown to the list of pansy ass crybabies that keep revealing themselves from within. And to be clear, that has nothing to do with physical size or strength. Dude is mentally weak and a bitch for taking that route... he knows that poo isn't the same, it's just yet another peek into the mindset that is pervasive in this locker room - pass the buck and blame someone else. And I remember them trying to hype dude up as a high-character guy, son of a police officer, and all that garbage... smh. He should just do himself a favor and get off social for awhile.

Imagine a world where a coach would bench Cam Newton for Sam Darnold. Well, in three weeks, you won't have to imagine it. Dude is a fuging clown.

Was just going to post something about this... The troubling thing to me is the offense still just feels so herky jerky... the rhythm still isn't there, and some of it has to do with the turnovers which are jarring. When Cam threw that pick yesterday, my jaw just dropped, because again, as I've been saying- this offense is predicated on timing and anticipation. You can tell a lot of the throws are plays they design with the intent of getting one specific route open. When Cam threw that, they expected the trail route to be WIDE open. And 99% of the time, it would be... And if you listen to Rhule's explanation of what happened, that was exactly what they were thinking. But then he said, the defense was "mugged" up on the line and usually they're blitzing everyone there, but sometimes they drop a DL who can't usually make that play. But he said they dropped a "rat" off the backside and he rotated all the way over and picked it off. His description made it sound like that was something they didn't expect at all, but then he blamed Cam and said despite all of that he had to know "what was in front of him" when he threw the ball. So many if our picks are like that. Now, some of the picks Sam threw weren't even close to the receivers so we have no idea what he was looking at, but some were of the same variety I'm talking about - trying to throw a comeback route before they hit their break anticipating it will be open, only for the DB to already know what we were running and jump the route. All of Cam's picks have been of that variety thus far. Every single one of them, he is anticipating a route to come open based off of the route combination versus the look the defense is giving them pre-snap. So he throws it when it should come open - and every time the defense has ran the route for the receiver and beat him to his own spot. People hate Vilma, and he's not my favorite either - but as he said yesterday, there isn't an issue of arm strength or getting the passes there, this is strictly scheme related and being comfortable with what you're seeing and doing. And its not coincidence that none of our QBs have been comfortable in what they've been asked to do. 2 of the 3 who have played for other teams and staffs have had career worst days under this staff. Their scheme is remedial and easily predictable, and we were sliding by before because they hadn't really seen enough to know tendencies and such, but now they have almost 2 years of film on it and they do. That pick yesterday, they knew exactly where we wanted to throw it based off of tendencies and stats, and they rotated a defender over there and we never saw it. The OCs don't anticipate or adjust, and the opposing DCs do. They know whats coming before we run it. Plain and simple.

I honestly think Rhule would come off just as bad if he had the resume that Meyer has. Rhule already has an air of arrogance to him just based off what he accomplished in college, but he didn't win championships, Meyer did which is why u think he is so brazen with his... I think Rhule is very much the same, but as Scot said, he does a better job with the public-facing part of the job. Meyer is reckless because he feels he can be. Rhule is just as arrogant, but less sure he can display it like Meyer does... I see it in how Rhule has talked about and dealt with players and coaches. He just fired a guy and then spent the whole presser blowing smoke up our asses about how great he was. It's not just coach speak, it signals his word means very little and he doesn't have a problem using them to get what he wants. And honestly, I keep going back to the story that I had forgot about until we played the Giants this year, where he sold himself to Tepper with that aforementioned gift of gab, got offered the job, then took our offer and had the audacity to go to NYG with it and told them if they match it he would pick them over us. Dude is a complete narcissistic, ingenuine, amoral asshole.

Yup. Same.

I dont know who the final word on personnel is, although we've heard it is Rhule and certain moves like Sam and Henderson are directly tied to him having a previous experience with them - that being said, some moves were made simply because of the FO and the relationships they had (trades with BUF AND NE, as well as all draft trades) with other teams and have nothing to do with Rhule aside from just signing off on it. That being said, imo, it doesn't matter who is making the personnel decisions because the personnel is not the problem. The OL blows and MLB leaves a bit to be desired, but outside of those positions, this teams STACKED with talent. There are a lot of other teams that are winning with a lot less. Rhule shouldn't lose his job because of talent. The talent is there. He should lose his job because he doesn't know how to use it. If he is the overlord on all personnel moves, it really doest matter if he loses that authority because our problem is strictly how it is used on the field.

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/panthers-bad-loss-falcons-cam-newton-quarterback-rotation-pj-walker-01fpr60g98w4 We made it, ma!

My guess is both, but PJ was visibly demonstrative and upset on the last drive, pointing to his helmet and waving to the sideline to get the play in. This staff sucks and is constantly unprepared.

Yeah, Fitterer is fine. I dont think anyone would disagree with the fact that this team has more than enough talent to be a playoff team. He gave Rhule the pieces he asked for and said he needed, and Rhule poo the bed.

I've been thinking more and more about that the last few weeks, too. I definitely think health had something to do with it, but the fact he joined the staff and then left after one season, but still was coming back - even sitting in the cheap seats with fans, has really made me think he saw what was coming and wanted out because he knew it was gonna get ugly.

Softer than wet charmin.