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Didn't know that's what it was, because I don't deem that ok. I'll have to look it up. I was just speaking to what I know of him since he got into coaching and strictly in terms of what he offered in that capacity. I'll also say, I don't excuse that behavior at all, but I still think people can change and grow.

I know he had got in trouble when he was younger, but I believe in second chances and it seems he is believed in and really well-liked universally, so I am inclined to think those things are behind him. But good point about the dynamic with Cam. Hadn't thought about that report since that interview cycle.

I still wanted Bienemy.

I know we as fans don't bear the weight of responsibility of having to actually carry out the poo we scream out from week to week - like firing people. And often times, we just do it to express an emotion, knowing we don't expect it to happen or believe that it should, but rather just to reflect our feelings about something in the moment. I know I do it. I think we all do at various points, and more often than not, don't mean it... That being said, even while operating with that in mind, this was one of those times where we do mean it, and we have every right to. And as such, this was the one big measuring stick for me about Tepper. I won't hold him accountable for being methodical and measured with what he inherited, although maybe those parties didn't deserve that amount of consideration. For example, I wanted him to can Ron as soon as he got here and bring in a GM to at least work alongside Hurney from the beginning... but, I understood being prudent. He didnt want to seem impulsive. I get it. But, again, Rhule was his choice. And so, this decision was where my accountability for him truly started, and if he is indeed leaving him employed, he has failed miserably... and its not looking good for the future if this is his process and approach. We have a coach and staff who are failing miserably at their jobs, with no signs of any progress whatsoever. Nothing to hang your hat on moving forward. The only thing delineating Rhule from Meyer is that Meyer physically assaulted a player... and thats a pretty low bar to have to hit to maintain employment.

In another similar situation, I would agree that this is the blueprint to fix our woes... But truth is, it won't. Not as long as Rhule is here. The offense is so broken and the philosophy is so arcane, you literally could trade for Aaron Rodgers, and draft all starter-caliber players on the OL, and unless they give Rodgers full autonomy and power of the offense and playcalls, we would still manage to win only about 5 games a season as long as Rhule is here.

RIP to a true legend. He got me addicted to football and was the gateway to me studying and learning the game from an early age. An icon. And it's crazy that the documentary on him just dropped this past weekend, IIRC, and he passed within days of it.

Told yall. RR has spoken. We're stuck in fan hell for at least another year.

I think as long as Seimien (sp?) or Hill play, they will beat us... unless Payton pulls the old "no! Please don't beat us! We really want to win, I promise!" showing like he did a couple years back on Rivera... if they're playing to win and anybody but Book is playing, they will easily whoop our ass.

I dont believe it simply because I just don't understand why if Tepper already knows Rhule is dead meat, what is the point in keeping him around the last two weeks? Wouldn't you want to get a head start on the next candidate ASAP?

I read his excuse was that he accidentally must've liked it while having his phone in his pocket during mass. Lol... It almost makes you want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but being you're the GM of an NFL team, why would you be that deep into other people's tweets that you could randomly like any of them... he had to have already clicked on that tweet or a thread linking to it to even accidentally like it. I feel bad for Jimmy, lol.

It's definitely pushed the envelope as far as it can go.

And if that's the case... I'll start watching and attending again when he's gone.

I said it in another thread, but watching that live was so cringe. The reference was awkward, out of place, and just seemed like a throwaway from someone who has no effing idea what they're talking about. Dude is out here trying to give us Jay-Z bio bullet points but when he was asked earlier in the season in a presser what is the one concert he would want to go see if he had the choice of any performer, he said Dave Matthews Band. I'm not trying to stereotype, but I have a feeling the guy who considers DMB as a lifetime bucket list experience isn't all that well-versed in Jay-Z, nor Roc-A-Fella's (the "agency" he referenced) origin stories... but, hey, the freshmen at Baylor ate it up! I'm sure it will work here, too! You can't make this poo up.

He told us, man! We lost our ST ace and 4th WR with no notice! And our #2 corner (although I still have no idea who he was referring to there? Bouye?)! And our guys still showed up and held them to under 60 points, and we drove right down the field two different times and kicked some legit FGs, bro. Like he said, the defense could've came out and said, "the offense is terrible today," and let the Bucs score two more TDs. But they didn't! They only let them score 32 points. Not 46. It's under the surface, man. The process. It's too bad you don't see it.

But, like he tells the guys all the time, Jay-Z took seven years to become an overnight sensation.

Yup, that whole presser was an absolute trainwreck of the highest magnitude. Revealed a lot about him and what he thinks of himself. Imagine you working a job, absolutely sucking and by all observable metrics are failing miserably at it, and then telling the people that evaluate you, "It's working. You just can't see it. There's a process underneath the results. I'm sorry you can't see it yet. But, it's 1000 percent working."

100% agree. I kind of said the same when the new regime released him the first time around - he's a guy that you let decide when he's ready to go because of what he's still capable of doing and because of what he's done for this organization as a whole. Now, there are things that have to be hashed out in that scenario - like I'm not sure you can afford to pay him 20 million a year in salary still, but I'm sure there are ways to give him that value without it affecting the cap (as it's rumored that is what the Pats did for Brady for years). The only thing that really bothers me about the legacy stuff at this point, especially with this poo coaching staff, is continuing to trot him out there as the starter for guaranteed losses. But, that is why I keep saying it - I really hope Tepper recognizes Cam's value both on and off the field through all of this BS, and brings him back next season with a competent NFL coaching staff that gives us and him a chance to win.

Me either. He was right in saying that Cam was a competitor and is really only concerned with winning and competing, but even in that vein, he denied him the opportunity. He knew what he was doing and what was on the line. And judging from Cam's comments afterwards and referencing all the great players he played with and learned from that "knew what it meant to Keep Pounding," as well as multiple allusions to the number of cowards who have stood at that podium and deferred responsibility, his being adamant that he isn't done, referencing his part in being part of the most successful season our franchise has had to date, as well as repeatedly talking about reflecting on all those things, times, and people over the years and his being a part of the community while he was standing on the sidelines and watching Sam run around like a chicken with his head cut off... yeah, I'd say Cam wanted to be in there. Again, I hope the saving grace is that he's back next season so that doesn't have to be his final home game, and its with a competent, NFL-caliber coaching staff.

And this thread seems like as good of a place as any to share this reminder again - when we offered Rhule the job, instead of accepting immediately, he took the contract offer to the Giants and asked them to match it in hopes he could use us as leverage and take that opening from Judge who they were locking in on. They rejected him. Yet another reason to fire his slimy, sorry ass.

Nope, because 1) he wouldn't do it, and 2) even if he did do it, he won't ever defer to them because from everything we've seen and heard, he thinks he's the smartest guy in the building.

Good. Hope he's out for awhile.

That presser was an absolute train wreck. He rambled on much more than usual, like a job interview answer that you knew you fuged up and just keep going to try to fix it but only make it worse. That Jay-Z anecdote was hilariously out of place, awkward, and inauthentic. He's running out of snake oil.

"The defense could've been like, 'man, the offense is terrible today,' and let them score two more TDs." WHAT?!?! It's the little victories, I guess. Screen_Recording_20211226-164925_Facebook.mp4

Also, Cam said the city has had multiple cowards as the face of the teams and he's not ever going that route bc he's an alpha and is accountable. Also said we've had multiple cowards step up to that podium and blame someone else. Very interesting.