TylerDurden

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*Bryce FIFY

Someone should’ve told those fuging receivers that today. God damn. also, fug 4pm games.

Ngl, regardless of who the coach or QB was, I felt weird about it as soon as I knew what we were facing coming out of the bye. I don’t know what the stats are, but i feel like historically we have been pretty bad coming out of bye weeks. Under Canales, my fear is even further exacerbated because the team already looks unprepared most weeks as it is.

Can’t remember what poster said it, but they said if we got swept by New Orleans, we didn’t deserve the playoffs, and truer words have never been spoken. poo is inexcusable. We make Shough look like prime Aaron Rodgers.

Do you like arguing with yourself, Scot?. Because if you just want to create arguments and rebut those carefully crafted fabrications, I’ll step aside and let you have at it. I haven’t said any of the things you typed back for the last two or three posts. You are cutting and pasting things ransom note effect style that aren’t being said and then using that as a springboard to just restate what you want to say. That’s fine. Have at it, big dog!

The fact people keep glossing over this is indeed mind-blowing. 41 years on this Earth, 31 playing/following/watching football and I’ve never before Bryce seen or heard of a QB who was subbed out because he couldn’t sneak. Ever. That’s a standard football play, and we have a QB who can’t run it. So if he can’t do that, what else can’t he do? What other plays do we not run because they know he can’t do it? I suspect a lot, which is why the offense looks like poo more often than not and he struggles to hit 175 most games.

Scot, the goalposts are moving again. After signing Hunt and Lewis and then playing a full season, we have what many considered one of the better OLs in the league. I can’t remember where we fell or how it was measured, but I believe we were considered top 5? We’ve had injuries, but as of now, we really are only down Hunt. The OL hasn’t been a problem outside of Corbett starting at C those couple games. And yes, Bryce gets yards as a runner because he often bails on passing once he gets uncomfortable - much like Justin Fields. That’s not to take away from his stats for doing it but the point is, because he’s pressured and is scared to throw some plays the defense will live with his scrambles, that doesn’t make him a dynamic runner. I don’t think teams consider him a threat as a runner, and he rarely breaks tackles in the open field. It’s often feels like teams allow him that. Even today, that last third down, he got pressured, climbed the pocket, and as soon as he moved up the middle his head came down and he never looked back up. That’s third down on what ended up being our last drive and he didn’t even look to pass once pressured, so the defense let him run a little bit on a 3rd and 20 or whatever it was. Yards for nothing. And I didn’t say every game we won, we won in spite of Bryce, but out of 3 years, I can probably count on one hand the games I could say we won BECAUSE of Bryce. That, imo, is enough criteria to decline a 5th year option and hit reset at QB.

Nothing. The season is over. We need a new DC, a new QB, and maybe a new HC. Good times.

Parcells was brought up earlier. Here is his QBs from his Giants’ glory years in now what would be considered prehistoric, conservative offenses. Parcells also mentored a young Jacoby Brissett and sung his praises to FOs when he was turning pro, iirc. I’ve always liked Brissett for the record and felt he deserved a permanent starting gig, but here is his comp.

Look at fuging Minshew, man. His stats as a passer are far superior. And to your point, here is Bryce’s current season versus Teddy’s season here in 2020. And for the record, I loved Teddy in college, pulled for him early in his career as a pro player, and then the year we signed him I stated I had never watched a more painful QB performance over a season in my life. Then along came Bryce. This is unreal. career: Bryce’s current versus Teddy’s lone season here:

Bro, what do you think we could do? The forward pass or something?

Just for more fun… Also the best rushing teams in the league this year so far are Buffalo, Chicago and Indy. No need to even post Josh Allen lol. We know what that looks and reads like. Already posted Caleb. And Danny Dimes was having an incredible year before the injuries caught up with him, and so they signed 44 year old Phillip Rivers off his couch after not playing for 5 years and he came out and put up a stat line that Bryce usually does in his athletic prime and 3 years into his career, practicing and playing everyday. These are comparable stats for QBs in run heavy schemes. and they all do something better than Bryce on damn near every attempt. That stat alone is as telling as it gets. Even Tyrod, who was essentially runout of Buffalo for being too conservative is noticeable better in this glaring category. And when relying on a run game, you have to have the consistent threat to make a defense pay if they over commit. Bryce’s stats show he can’t and doesn’t compared to his peers and predecessors.

I haven’t said poo about Evero’s issues being Bryce’s fault. That’s your strawman. Not mine. Yes, Scot, let’s delve further into run heavy offenses and look at what their QBs look like… hell, I even threw our own Jake into the fold for shits and giggles. Now Jake wasn’t much of a scrambler, but there is one really glaring stat that sticks out in each of these comparisons. Jake’s was better. In fact, every QB I compared Bryce to had a better number there. Furthermore, each averages at least 10 more yards a game than Bryce. Jalen and Lamar also are legit weapons as runners, which contributes to their scheme, Bryce is not. We barely run any option because they don’t want Bryce to get broken. So he is mostly just a passer who occasionally scrambles well. Bryce is closer to Jake’s 59% completion pct. than Jalen or Lamar’s 64%+, and those are again, “running QBs.” All three comps average more YPG, which may not seem huge but is significant. All have a higher QB rating than Bryce. edit: just for fun, because I’m sure some would argue Hurts and Jackson are unfair comparisons because they are elite so we shouldn’t expect that. Check out Case Keenum and Tyler Huntley compared to Bryce. They are considered backups/stopgap QBs who occasionally found their way into starting roles. Still better than Bryce. And this is beyond statistics. When I watch Keenum, I don’t think: “damn, if he would’ve just made that throw.” “Damn, he’s holding them back.” “Damn, they can’t run that play because he’s in there.” “Damn, he missed a wide open receiver again.” “Damn, they’re mostly just running 5 yard hooks across the width of the field.” “Damn, he goes down easy!” “Damn, he can’t run a QB sneak.” “Damn, what a weak ass throw.” Huntley was undrafted and looks like a better QB than Bryce, even without seeing the stats. Bryce is a net negative. When every game we play, the opposing QB is better than ours, we are already playing at a huge disadvantage, so w shave to hope beyond hope that the rest of the team plays perfect, or damn near. That’s a ridiculous standard, especially when the biggest problem we consistently have is at the most important position on the field.

Bro, Horn shows up and does his job almost every Sunday. He earns his fuging money. He got smoked today. poo happens. But out of our 7 losses, how many has Jaycee cost us? How many has Bryce cost us? Jaycee doesn’t require everyone around him to play at an otherworldly level to what is expected or required of him. QB is the most important position on a football team. When ours is the worst in the league over a three year span, every game is an uphill fuging battle. People are still defending this poo an we just played a game with playoff implications and our QB struggled to throw for 163 yards AGAIN. Our QB just got outplayed by an ancient 2nd round rookie, AGAIN. Our QB requires our RBs to be amazing every Sunday, or we lose. It is fuging insane people are acting like that isn’t a huge fuging problem at the most important and production-dependent position on a football field.

So a QB who struggles to post 175 yards on most Sundays is NOT a major problem holding our team back? That’s a normal, acceptable average for a franchise QB in the year of our lord 2025? Got it.

When your QB is a non-fuging-factor besides underthrowing balls to your unit of a rookie receiver causing drops, or taking a sack with the game on the line, or climbing the pocket and never looking back up to pass it on your final drive in a tied ball game, finishes with barely over 150 yards passing again, and gets outplayed by a geriatric rookie 2nd round pick twice while being swept by a division rival… maybe that’s why. He sucks. He requires everything around him to be optimal to produce, while real franchise QBs make the players around them better. We have to play like a fuging Knute Rockne offense to make him look like a fuging QB. Everybody was drinking the koolaid after the rams game, but we had to go for it on 4th down how many times to generate the majority of his numbers. It was inexplicable and a complete anomaly because it shouldn’t have happened… he got that production on 4th down because the Rams, as the rest of the NFL would, expected Bryce to be inaccurate or incapable of making the throws they gave him on those plays - because 99% of the time, he doesn’t make them. If we played them 9 more times, Bryce doesn’t make a single one of those throws in those moments. His default is poo like today. If he leads that first half pass to Tet, it would’ve been a completely different game… but again, when poo is on the line, Bryce doesn’t make the plays that’s required of a franchise QB.

No, the third down scramble before we punted.

I tend to agree. But it was 4th and inches. If we had an adult sized NFL QB who could just lean forward without getting broke in half, that’s an easy call. Instead, the play all itself was a further indictment of Canales. He literally ran the same poo earlier. No wrinkle, no obvious difference. And the return was minimal the first time we ran it… so, had I known he was just gonna caveman it, then yes, take the points. I just wish someone, somewhere in this front office and staff was consistently good at anything.

This.

And this isn’t a pardon for Canales. He can go to hell. Our team showing up completely unprepared, undisciplined… DC letting Evero do whatever the fug he wants on the defensive side of the ball. So tired of this remedial, mediocre pussyfooting bullshit.

He never looked up to pass again once he climbed the pocket. Super processor that shits his pants as soon as he gets uncomfortable.

The coaching was shitty, but we have to ask ourselves why. I am convinced a vast majority is because plays aren’t being made by the QB when they are there and Canales also limits what is called to tailor to what he and Bryce are both comfortable with. Canales said as much about the deep passes. regardless, a QB we traded the farm for still struggles to throw for 200 yards and make winning plays when it matters in his third year. There are journeyman QBs, like a Jameis, who would’ve easily won that game.

He has that same “piss you off” ability that Brees had. Completing passes that shouldn’t be completed. Knowing that exactly when to start a slide to draw a penalty. Always escaping sacks. Always wiggling his way when he should’ve been tackled. I fuging hate this guy.