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Just quoted myself to share that I also pounded the table for us to hire Arians way back too. Twice! Including when TB hired him out of retirement. And here we are, still spinning our wheels.

I dont disagree. I was never super impressed with Leftwich... I really liked him as a player, but I always felt the majority of TB's success and system was Arians' stuff and then Brady tinkered with it. I'm just saying I know he was highly regarded when the Bucs were tearing it up, and I believe got some interviews last year. But, I'm also willing to bet their offensive success isn't solely because of Brady, although most of it is. If those rumors are true, when they fire Leftwich, Bowles is gonna fold just like all the other defensive coaches do with a competent OC and HOF QB. That place is gonna implode fast.

I wasn't saying for us. I'm saying, he is highly regarded in the league and will get a shot soon. And also having Brady males him look a lot better than he would otherwise.

And that. Ron Rivera owes his entire HC career to Cam. A generational talent at QB certainly masks a ton of deficiencies that are inherent to a conservative defensive HC. I also cited the struggles Tomlin and Bekichick are going through now without a QB.

Yeah, but Leftwich is highly regarded, and is also likely to become HC somewhere in the near future. That team is going to be going through it when Leftwich and Brady leave.

I saw that trademark Rivera loss when it counts.

Never thought I would feel that way, but yup.

McD, Belichick, and Tomlin are definitely exceptions to the rule. And look at how the latter two are now faring without HOF QBs and somewhat quality OCs. Any good OC will believe they can turn chicken poo into chicken salad, no matter what we already have here. Look at what Sirriani did in Philly when he was hired. I don't know that their roster was any more appealing than what we have now.

This. And I'm not gonna lie, I have grown much more emotionally distant and detached to this team as the years have gone by, especially since the NFL stole our championship away in 2015. That really opened my eyes to a lot of things and I almost gave up on the NFL ad a whole because it felt like, "what's the point of investing so much into this when we have no fuging control over it? And when your team does all the right things and the NFL blatantly can just snatch it away from you and doesn't have to answer to anyone for it?" I felt empty. Depressed. Completely cold. But I eventually was lured back in, but again, at a much safer proximity emotionally... I shouldn't care as much as I have, but it's because I see the Panthers as endemic to my identity. They are a part of me. They are me. They are how I see myself. But, much like toxic family members who helped define who you are and where you come from - at some point, you have to love them from a distance or cut them off altogether. Our team is historically mediocre. As I always liked to say, we are remarkably consistently inconsistent. And at some point, when you view the team as part of your identity, it begins to affect how you view yourself as well. So fug all that... many of us hang around and get kicked to poo by this team as some sort of badge of honor, like it's something to be proud of. But truth is, we can disappear and come back and no one will ever really fuging care because this poo is so meaningless and ancillary in the big picture. We don't get any fuging reward for letting this team emotionally abuse us. So, my line is drawn. Make me care, Carolina Panthers. I dare you.

Agreed, but also knowing our history, time to hire the wrong one.

Even riding the Wilks momentum, my concern was still if everything worked out and we hired a superstar OC, the issue is the offense is always going to have turnover because if he's worth his salt he will get hired away. And offense is always harder to scheme than defense is for a DC. Most defensive concepts are simple, but the best DCs know how and when to use them. OCs dictate the game by and large, and they have the ability to get a lot more creative with their concepts and designs, whoch makes their schemes harder to replicate because theyre like fingerprints with all the moving parts and ability to move and use them. OCs dictate. Period. OCs and offensive coaches are proactive, whereas most DCs and defensive coaches are REactive. And that has always been our kryptonite since our inception... we are always reacting and back on our heels instead of being assertive and proactive. Cam was the one, very short reprieve from that, and not becaude of ingenious coaching, but because he wa s a fuging force of nature. But, that's why we need an offensive coach. And again, there's a long history of lifelong DCs that are great at what they do and never go on to become HCs or fail when they get the chance... even superstar DCs like Jim Johnson and Dick LeBeau who were exceptions of the profession in that they dictated games with their aggressive styles were not heavily sought after as head coaches. Defensive schemes are replicable. Even the best ones, and even if you have a superstar DC that does eventually get hired away, you can usually do a good enough job replicating what they did. That's not the case with OCs. Good ones that can implement creative, unique schemes where guys are seemingly getting wide open every play or running free - once you lose them, they can't be replaced. That is the guy we need at head coach. Still pisses me off that we kept Rhule's fuging dumbass around another year instead of getting Daboll. Sure, the Lions' and Eagles' OCs are cool, but they don't seem as ingenious as Daboll is and had shown himself to be for years before the Giants hired him. Also, the Lions and Eagles have had some stinkers as of late, so I don't feel as confident about them. poo is just frustrating. Anyway, it's been real Wilks, but thank you for reminding us why defensive coaches aren't the way to go. Those two punts from midfield may have costed you the job and ended our season, but it was painful reminder that needed to be had now before we got caught up in our feelings.

You worried about the wrong guy...

He did have a lot of time some plays. But we also had 3 sacks on him. Most teams don't get that on Brady. The difference is having CBs who can't fuging cover. Evans didn't even make a fuging move, he ran straight through them. Those plays didn't require time. They required corners who weren't complete ass. They said CJ had contemplated retirement before coming here. I really hope he considers it again effective immediately. He is complete fuging ass.

And yet they haven't. Who else gave up 400 yards and 3 TDs to him this year? Henderson is fuging garbage and has been his entire time here. fug him.

Jaycee didn't play when we whooped their ass the first time. We got outcoached, as expected. We signed Josh Norman for a fuging feelgood headline so he could sit on the sideline and watch Henderson's sorry ass get beat like a fuging drum. We were up 14 fuging points and they were dead in the fuging water and came back because Wilks dumbass elected to punt twice from midfield on 4th and short. fug this team. fug Tepper. fug this poo.

Cam and Luke did. Wilks and his band of merry misfits who like to punt at midfield cant.

If they had wanted to, they literally could've just bombed it every possession for a TD. I fuging hate CJ Henderson. Taylor was a fuging 5th rounder and has shown glimpses and then some horrible plays. CJ was touted as a fuging lock down corner and has been nothing but complete ass his whole career. fug him and get him the fug off this team yesterday.

Never seen it in 30 years of watching football.

Get the fug out of here. I fuging hate the NFL.

I'm telling you our franchise is fuging cursed. 11 fuging seconds off the clock on a fumbled snap and he still outrun the defense and gets the punt off.

And they just ran 11 seconds off the clock.

This poo only happens to us.

I almost posted I felt it was coming after that first Evans TD. That poo never happens on a normal defense on a normal day.

And it is our fuging way of life: Huge unexpected win -> Demoralizing, humiliating loss

Then we have fuging Hekker kick the onside kick and he can't even get it 10 yards.