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Couldn't get to the board to post after the opening drive so first point - Burns looks so much sturdier and more stout this year. Next observation - Moton is getting his ass whooped every play so far. Happy we came away with a FG considering.

Yeah, sadly, after watching what we looked like week 1, all of the caveats I gave us from the preseason went up in flames and I just don't see it being very pretty for us. Still hoping for the best, but I'm lowering expectations quite a bit starting with tonight. I am excited to see Chark make his debut though, and I'm hoping they really get a heavy does of Viska in tonight too - both catches and carries.

Nah, timeline isn't off, Scot. I'm saying Cam's career went downhill after that first shoulder injury. That's undisputed. And the pieces involved in that injury were all Gettleman constructed... and not just the shoulder injury, buy the beating he took cumulatively before that played a role in how quickly he disintegrated.

Really just a figure of speech and it pisses me off when I think about how badly we wasted Cam's career and that window (with Luke as well). And tbh, some fans do deserve it... there were plenty of people willing to die on Gettleman's Hill, singing his praises. He is literally almost single-handedly the reason Cam's career ended the way it did. And yeah, that pisses me off too.

I'm in my feels, Scot. Had we took care of him, he would likely still be in his prime, slinging deep balls 70 yards with the flick of a wrist while being the most dangerous and dynamic goalline back the game has ever seen. Instead, we put ourselves in purgatory for almost 5 years now and still don't know what we might have in the rookie we just drafted, when all we had to do was not fug up the proven talent we had in Cam. It sucks.

This. And we deserve it for ruining a generational talent like Cam.

I think the tweet I saw saying they were starting also said Reich wouldn't say with side they were playing. It's tough. Zavala looked amazing at RG, so I understand the continuity, but it would probably be worth it to go ahead and put Zavala back next to Ickey and Mays at RG to hold it down until Corbett comes back.

Reich confirmed he and Zavala are starting.

This receiving corps is not nearly as bad as people are framing it to be. What I saw most of the game week 1, as well as the preseason was a lot of shitty, lazy concepts too. I thought we were gonna get a lot of motion and creativity to free guys up off route combos versus route running, and nope... it looked like a lot of the same poo we had under Rhule. Now, this isn't Smitty, Olsen, Shockey, but it's not the burning trash heap that people are trying to make it out to be. There were a lot of plays to be had even with the shitty play design and calling, and Bryce still didn't hit the right guys enough. Period.

Agreed. I felt the same way about Herbert and wasn't sure about Allen either. But I've never had trouble eating crow when I'm wrong. UT for many people, pride is the devil. Everyone knows what my stance has been on Bryce, but I really want to be wrong about it for the sake of our success as a franchise. And I won't have any trouble eating my crow if and when that time comes, and I hope it does.

That's the part a lot of people keep overlooking. JT no doubt knows how to break film down and analyze what he's looking at, but that doesn't mean what he shares is impartial, bc it definitely is. I've watched several of his videos over the years and the way he spins a mistake for one guy, versus skewering another for the same thing is obvious. He likes Bryce. It's why I have a hard time digesting him still praising him for anticipation from week 1 when a ton of his throws were late. He does it in one of the early throws to Hurst across the middle in this breakdown - it was late, behind him, and inaccurate, and iirc, between two defenders, and JT says something like it was a good decision, just a tad behind him and a little late. Well, then how does that make it a good throw? Nothing about that was a good throw. Now, again, I'm not saying all this to trash Bryce or say he's a bust bc I'm not. But what I am saying is, a lot of the stuff JT was praising him for in week 1 was not legitimate, it's really bc he likes him and wants him to succeed. He might be qualified and a professional at what he does, but that doesn't mean he isn't biased. Front office guys are professionals and they make mistakes all of the time based off of biases and preferences. People saw for years that healthy Cam was revolutionizing the game and the only thing that could stop him was himself or injury in his prime, and yet, there were countless ex-players and pundits that went out of their way his entire career to trash him and criticize him for how he played. Just saying... these experts aren't always looking through clear, objective lenses.

It really bothered me last year how PS2 and Sauce were getting all of the love and the "future lockdown" hype after the season, knowing that when he was healthy, which was the majority of last season, Jaycee arguably played better than both of them. Both of those guys deserve love too. All super talented and rightfully recognized, but Jaycee is just as good - he just can't stay healthy. And that sucks for him and us. I've held onto hope that he would get through this freak injury stuff and would get the attention and accolades he deserves for his play, but man, this injury really even made me finally question if that's possible. At this point, if I'm the brass, I still move forward with him in the plans for the future, but you also have to do that and understand you can't depend on him actually being a part of those plans, if that makes any sense. Sucks.

Said it in the previous thread last week about shotty officiating, but they literally make up the rules as they go. This won't affect the teams they don't want it to.

I've responded in kind to further clarify my position so there's no confusion. Last i checked, that's what message boards are for - to engage in dialogue. I'm not losing sleep over it.

Thank you, brother. (I'm the little hand)

Unlike most people, I really don't give a poo what strangers on the internet think of me or my opinion. So unless the definition of trolling has changed, you're barking up the wrong tree.

I didnt realize he still stayed in the area, and definitely didn't know his son was playing at GT. I'll have to check him out. But I loved me some Mad Max growing up. He was so underrated... but man, if you've never seen his poo talk to Jazz fans, you have to check it out. It's hilarious.

I can always count on my man 4C... always with the Vernon Maxwell-elite-level roasts.

It could be, but none would be as emotionally invested as he, himself. And I say it's highly likely that it's him because if you follow the other sports, particularly the NBA, this happens all of the time. Multiple players have been caught with burner accounts, and even a ref. At the end of the day, they're human beings with feelings too... and I am beginning to notice a correlation between guys with injuries and the subsequent free time tending to fall into this stuff more. It happens.

Ok.

Like I said, not a good look, but also doesn't really matter... unlike the NBA where they care about their image and investigate this kind of stuff, the NFL doesn't give a poo lol. If the acct got suspended, this is probably where this story ends. But odds are very, very, very high it's him, and while I understand his frustration with his situation, you're bigger than that, bro.

Damn. Not a good look.

No i didn't watch all of it, but I did watch most of it. I heard JT compliment some of what he did as it went on, talked about coming off reada and looking off coverage, but I also feel like he was trying to find positives in a lot of routine things. I agree with your overall sentiment about the jury still being out, but it's hard to overlook the 2 picks and being mostly the reason we lost to an unimpressive defense when his peers looked better.

Lol I think you're wrong.

Appreciate your measured, non-emotional take, brother. That's all fair. Still hoping for the best.