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Dalton is a quality starter. I would say a plus starter. He is an upper-level game manager with ability to make all the throws, so he has occasional games of brilliance, but the main thing is his floor is consistent and solid. That alone is worth 8 wins with this squad, imo. Enjoy your fortune, Bryce. It's been real... enjoy youe lucrative college football commentary gig two years from now.

Agreed on all points. And honestly, at this point, to add to the organizational integrity part, if we don't do everything we can to be competitive we risk not only the next #1 pick not wanting to come here, but also quality FAs and coaches. It was already out there that some coaches didn't even want to interview here bc of Tepper.

The only reason JaMarcus is ever even mentioned is because he was the biggest intentional dumbass ever. He has admitted since in interviews that he just didn't care at the time. He essentially "made it" and put it in cruise control - relying on his God-given talent and ability without putting in any prep work, while also not mature enough to navigate organizational dysfunction at the time... but if you watched him, there were games where you could absolutely see his potential to fuging dominate and take over games. He just didn't care enough or take pride in the position he was in at the time. But in terms of talent and ability, he absolutely deserved to be a #1 overall pick. Hard to tell how guys are gonna react once they get there... Bryce? Has the ability and talent of some huddlers, and clearly lacks the processing ability that was overhyped and overvalued in the draft process. He has a zero of a fraction of the talent and ability past #1s had. He could be fuging Albert Einstein of quarterbacking and he still couldn't execute the poo physically because he is at such a deficit. And for that reason.. ABSOLUTELY YES, HE IS THE WORST #1 OVERALL PICK, AND THATS EVEN BEFORE CONSIDERING WHAT WE GAVE UP TO TRADE UP TO TAKE HIM. And I've been saying this since last season. Our franchise honestly deserves to implode on itself after this fuging trainwreck.

The only reason JaMarcus I'd ever even mentioned is because he was the biggest intentional dumbass ever. He has admitted since in interviews that he just didn't care at the time. He essentially "made it" and put it in cruise control - relying on his God-given talent and ability without putting in any prep work, while also not mature enough to navigate organizational dysfunction at the time... but if you watched him, there were games where you could absolutely see his potential to fuging dominate and take over games. He just didn't care enough or take pride in the position he was in at the time. But in terms of talent and ability, he absolutely deserved to be a #1 overall pick. Hard to tell how guys are gonna react once they get there... Bryce? Has the ability and talent of some huddlers, and clearly lacks the processing ability that was overhyped and overvalued in the draft process. He has a zero of a fraction of the talent and ability past #1s had. He could be fuging Albert Einstein of quarterbacking and he still couldn't execute the poo physically because he is at such a deficit. And for that reason.. ABSOLUTELY YES, HE IS THE WORST #1 OVERALL PICK, AND THATS EVEN BEFORE CONSIDERING WHAT WE GAVE UP TO TRADE UP TO TAKE HIM. And I've been saying this since last season. Our franchise honestly deserves to implode on itself after this fuging trainwreck.

New to betting. How would I go about making 1k off that?

They hand-picked Tepper, created a faux-outrage event to leak to the press so they could force the sale of the franchise to him. They shoot the sh!t at owner's meetings and laugh at all the peons and basement dwellers outraged over his decisions and then prolly wrap it up with, "well, Dave... There's always next year! Hurrrrhurrhuurrrrrhurrrrr!" And then clink glasses and head to the orgy. They don't give a flying fug about him running the franchise into he ground. They chose him to do it. They aren't stepping in. Ask yourself... how fuging bad things are that we're hoping the very organization that has fuged us at every turn would step in and save us from poo they put into motion in the first place. They dgaf. No one is coming to save us as Panthers fans.

That's it. That'll fix it!

I'll never forget someone here posted advanced stats of all the QB draft candidates in that draft and one of the stats was completion percentage to sideline throws, and Bryce wasn't just the worst, he was by far the worst. I remembered seeing it and thinking "there's no possible way any FO analyzes these numbers and thinks he's worth taking a flyer on until at least the 4th or 5th round... lo and behold, our FO threw that poo out the window and decided he was worth the #1 pick. I was out on him from the college season before his last... it just became clear to me he was the beneficiary of superior talent and nothing special himself. And again, it still boggles my mind that just off that Stat alone, FOs still had him in consideration for the first round, because paired with the eye test, his lack of arm, his lack of above average athleticism, and then decision to not even throw at the combine - how tf could you look at AR, Stroud, Levis, or even a Hendon Hooker and think Bryce was gonna project better than any of them?

I maintain, we need to see what Detroit would want in exchange for Hendon Hooker, or what the Pats want for Milton. Bring in one of those guys to see if they can develop in addition to who they draft in 2025. Bring them in and let them get a head start. The only reason Bryce should start moving forward is to secure the #1 pick.

Damn straight. What a fuging trainwreck we are. I gave serious thought to changing the avatar at different points, but as you said, I ultimately settled on keeping it because it is now humorous and ironic in hindsight. He definitely had laser eyes, though.

Again, fug Goodell and the league as a whole. I will never forgive them for using us as a fuging pawn to give Peyton his storybook ending in that rigged ass superbowl. And then turned around, and I believe, leaked a story forcing the sale of the team to a predetermined owner who had already put in his time with the good ol boys club. Should've been Navarro if the sale had to be done... and it didn't. Because all the racist and foul poo guys like Ross and Jerry Jones have done, their ass should've been forced to sell long ago. And Snyder should've been ousted before anyone. And despite all the poo JR was alleged to have done in those reports, he still has a legit, authentic, no bullshit guy like Smitty who always vouched for him. I never saw guys vouch for those other owners, they just watch out for their preferred power brokers most. We have always been the NFL's whipping boy of a franchise.

As I mentioned in another thread, my personal life is in shambles, thus I was at my new job yesterday. The old me kept wanting to bubble up with thoughts of "I should've called out/I should've asked off/I am at the point in life I shouldn't be working on a Sunday- so I can watch my Panthers." On my first break, it hit right at 1 pm... I pulled the game up on my favorite streaming site. Saw Jaycee get torched for the first TD of the likes that is rarely seen week to week in NFL games (although I suspect the safety blew his assignment on the play). Then, two plays later, first throw of the season, Bryce throws to absolutely no one in particular aside from a guy wearing the other team's jersey. I, without hesitation or regret, immediately turned my phone off and went back to work. Lol, my how times have changed. Our team was what my entire Sundays revolved around for years... I walked back in the break room later and a couple guys were watching the 4pm games and I walked in and was like, "ahhh, yes... I remember when I would dedicate my whole Sunday to watch the Panthers. Don't know if you guys saw, but... I'm glad I don't do that poo anymore." And we all laughed.

Just perusing social media to discover what a fuging laughingstock we are and came across these. I didn't search for them, these loaded onto my feed as-is, from Panther and Non-Panther fans alike.

AR was the guy I wanted after the pre-draft process... but I loved Stroud too and stated I would've been ecstatic with either... if AR can consistently put it together and stays healthy, he is better than Stroud, and that's why I wanted him above all the other candidates. But the point being, as you said, who tf looked at AR and Stroud and said give me the guy built like my 13 year old daughter's middle school crush?

Mostly the Teppers though.

Me either, although I do think he has 8 sack potential, because last season, seemingly, he was "there" more, but often pushed the QB to someone else. I think my underlying sentiment was more so that we can't have nice things.

Tbh, we all knew they should've played the bulk of the first halves, AT MINIMUM, for every preseason game. But I don't think this approach was made because Dave was so confident in what they were doing/showing in practice - I think they knew exactly how shitty it would look and felt the preseason wasn't gonna make a difference because Bryce is that bad and they're prepared to tank.

Preciate it, brother. Definitely did not post it for attention or anything, just more matter of fact that despite all of that, I'm thankful I'm not making myself more miserable by dedicating entire days to this poo that Tepper has run into the ground. But again, I greatly appreciate the sentiment. Tbh, despite all of this, I'm thankful because it opened my eyes to a lot that I otherwise would've ignored. Everything happens for a reason, and I believe the series of events that happened led me exactly to where I was supposed to be and I'll be better for it. Much love, bro!

It just keeps getting better! And in a hurry! Remember Evero's "could be a 8 or 9 sack year" statement? Welp. Go Panthers!

I'm so glad I'm going through a bitter divorce, my credit has tanked, I'm thousands in debt, will likely have to battle out custody in court, because it allowed me to pick up this job where I worked yesterday instead of sitting at home to watch this poo. In all the years of our sucktitude, never once have I seen this happen. We are at rock bottom, ladies and gentlemen.

I still think PJ is a good player... snd like you said, at worst, he is athletic and can fuging sling it. I've been thinking a lot about past "great" college QBs who failed to translate to the NFL. Two that really standout are Pat White and idk why I keep thinking Danny Weurfell (sp?). I think because Weurfell had very few good physical traits, but he carved out an admirable career in the NFL and even had some moments of success... but that was also possible because there were very low expectations because of where he was drafted and the league knew he wasn't physically gifted, but he had enough physically to have moments. Pat was incredibly athletic, but also apparently had a noodle for an arm so that didn't last long at all. Bryce is smaller than both and has no physical ability that sets him apart from either, or anyone else on an NFL field, for that matter. I think the biggest thing physically to be able to even carve out some semblance of an NFL career as a QB, is you have to have a capable arm, first and foremost. You could suck at everything else, but if you can see your targets and complete even basic level NFL passes, you can make it. Bryce doesn't and can't. The end.

None. He's trash. First fuging throw of the season told you all you need to know. Elite processing my ass.

A lot of yall can keep on with the "I'm giving him this season" but the results are already there. What you're seeing is the final product. The final form. And no "future" cautionary tale... it was this way before he was even taken and the reason a lot of us didn't want to draft him in the first place. As I've stated ad nauseum... a franchise QB is a guy who has elite physical traits that elevates the play of those around him and he can make and create plays that aren't even there initially bc of his ability (plus ability to process). Game managers, at best, are the inverse, need the play of their supporting cast to elevate them... the game managers that can be outliers are guys who aren't elite, but have enough of those traits and abilities to start for one to several years - think Andy Dalton, Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, etc. Then there are guys who have really good overall physical traits and also elite processing - think Brady and Brees. Then there are guys that have poo physical traits, are built like a middle schooler, have a noodle for an arm, and are not very athletic, and are too short to maneuver around or see over their line to throw it any distance of consequence downfield - that's Bryce. He's not making anyone around him better, nor is he capable of doing so. And on the flipside, he could have fuging Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, TO, Smitty, and Chase and Jefferson coming off the bench and he still would put up numbers like yesterday because he fuging sucks ass. Foe that processing to matter, you have to be able to physically use it. And when he was at Alabama, the perspective was easily skewed because he had such elite talent around him compared to most of the opponents he was playing, so his weaknesses weren't evident because there was all of the fuging beer and circus flying all directions around him. But, now, he doesn't have that and it shows. And Mark my words, it isn't because we don't have talent at the playmaking positions. We absolutely do. If Dalton starts, we make a run at the playoffs and Diontae is making a run at being one of the top receivers statistically in the league, Mingo looks worlds better, etc. This is simply because the talent level at Alabama dwarfed 99% of their opponents. In the NFL, everyone has Alabama talent, so that gap is bridged and what makes the difference is scheme and who is pulling the trigger. And again, we gave up DJ and what became Caleb Williams for this piece of poo.

Tbh, DJ looked really solid in preseason. And I've always loved me some Barno, I think he has double-digit-sacks-a-year potential, he just needed time to develop into it. But he doesn't come back til week 4 at the earliest right?

Shows you how fuging ass CJ Henderson was, if you didn't know already... we traded a fuging second rounder for him, started him for 2 years, finally let him go elsewhere and he gets cut before the regular season. This front office really poo the bed, and for a long, long time. When fuging fans can see the poo from a mile away and the fuging experts still trot that poo out there FOR YEARS??? Wtf is really going on???