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Yeah, but that's my point... and they're even higher odds for a guy with limited athleticism and questionable arm strength coming from a system where he was surrounded by the absolute best athletes and players in the country that could mask his deficiencies.

And that's the thing... even Sherman is saying guys like Brees and Brady as best-possible outcomes... problem is, those guys are outliers, and I don't mean just in terms of their ability to excel as less than superior athletes. I'm saying they are guys, who regardless of style of play, are among the best to EVER play, and not only overcame odds to make it to the NFL, but then overcame even more odds by defying their shortcomings to not just survive, but thrive. So, are you willing to take a risk on a Mac Jones and hope he overcomes his lack of athleticism and arm strength to become Brees or Brady (but if he doesn't, then he quickly becomes useless because he has nothing to fall back on)? Or would you rather pick a guy who has the athleticism and big arm, thus improving their odds of succeeding by default because they already possess an advantage over guys like Jones? Sure, Jones could become Brees or Brady, but odds are much higher he becomes a Bridgewater or Chase Daniels.

Let the team Sherman ends up on draft him as their starter. Let's see what he thinks then.

You're awesome, as always, Verge. Thanks for sharing the info. So now my question is, was it Hurney's decision to move on from Cam and to Teddy, solely? And if so, did Rhule and Brady just tow the company line publicly? Because of the public love shown for Teddy, I assumed the move was pushed for by Brady/Rhule.

I liked him after seeing him on Panthers Huddle, initially... but, then after Zack said what he did here about how he handled his injury, I was not impressed.

Zeller, Graham, and picks are all I'm willing to offer. PJ if absolutely necessary. Melo, Rozier, Hayward, and Miles are my untouchables.

Not interested at all. He's washed. Wasn't very athletic to begin with and he's now a shell of what he was in his prime.

Hot and heavy as in, with us? Or just in general? I assume in general, because we weren't among the teams he listed that he would accept a trade to. That being said, as far as the Saints go, I don't care anymore... Loomis figured things out, and they are going to be a thorn in our ass for a longtime. Have Wilson as their QB wouldn't be much different from having dealt with Brees all these years. I was hoping for some kind of fall off coinciding with Brees leaving, but I've accepted there likely won't be... I hate to say it, but they are one of the best run front offices in the NFL.

Boy, Edmund is really in a tizzy.

Without reading through the thread, isn't Drummond in our PR department? Meaning he has no influence on personnel?

You definitely buy low and hope you got something. Rhule has also shown a capacity to get guys to "buy in," and maybe thats all he needs. Possibly get him for a late round pick and if it pans out, you have yourself your bookends for the next 10 years between him and Moton. If it doesn't work, you did no worse than the pick you gave up.

And he has a no-trade clause.

I would poo a fireball.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLuEt2UBQk1/?igshid=kn2zzktuhlps Edit: We are not listed as a possible destination.

Idk why, I thought I read somewhere that he had a really high hit rate a few years back... but, admittedly I haven't kept up with it as much recently.

Is he related to the previous Patrick Ramsey?

Very good points. That being said, hasn't Kiper's final mocks been pretty accurate over the years?

Again, the thing that kind of bothers me about this is, I 100% believe in Rhule's ability to develop talent and get the most out of his team. He showed it this season... at every position BUT QB. And that's what scares me. Because he had a say in that decision, and he co-signed handing Teddy the keys and leaving him at the wheel. I really hope he's not blind to the fact that you need some kind of talent at QB and that it can't be cultivated to chicken salad from chicken poo like the other positions on the roster... Teddy should've been enough to show him that. I really hope this projection and increasingly hot connection is a smokescreen and playing off the rumors from the senior bowl and recruiting interest.

Yet, he has Lance going to the Pats at 9. If he has some feel for what we like, and Rhule legit likes Mac over Lance, I will have some serious questions.

Man, idgaf what anyone says... dude should not even be considered in the first 3 rounds, imo. Definitely not the first, at all. I just don't get it.

Anybody ready to meet up and go out Heaven's Gate Style?

I'd imagine teams are waiting for the first shoe to drop, domino to fall, etc., for us, Bridgewater is clearly available, but we can't move him until we know whether we need him or not to acquire the guy we want.

And see... kid did all that talking, then clammed up when Cam put the spotlight on him like he wanted. And look, kid's team went 1-2 and he ain't even playing, just as I expected. But, best of luck with your TikTok, kid.

Yeah, kid is just clout chasing. Physically Cam could snap him in half, and in regards to accomplishments, Cam is one of few people in the history of football EVER, who have won a national championship, won a Heisman, won an NFL MVP, and led their team to a Super Bowl. That is GOAT-level accomplishments among a demographic that is already only comprised of the top 1% or so of athletes in the world. So, how stupid do you look, a HS kid at a 7 on 7 tournament clowning THAT guy who has accomplished all of that AND is selflessly dedicating his time and resources to bettering others at said event? For what? So you can get a few likes and follows on your way to your scholarship to a lower tier D-1 school (if you're lucky) where your football career will then end when you graduate before starting your career at Enterprise Rent-A-Car. As the great philosopher Kendrick Lamar once said, "be humble." fuging slapdick kids, man... Cam was much more gracious and considerate of the kid's feelings than I would have been if I was in his shoes.