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Ahh yes, Gettlemagic. And so commenced the post-Superbowl destruction of a potential dynasty thanks to that dumbass draft and then letting Norman walk for nothing. Smh, what a dickhead.

Went back and watched NFLN's coverage of our picks to see their breakdown of them and it was all love, but the most interesting take to me? Daniel Jeremiah, who I really like and respect, said Tremble reminds him a lot of George Kittle when he was coming out of college. If he can become THAT or even close? A reliable pass catcher, combined with his athleticism and nasty streak... My God. Edit: sorry for the initial typos that I hopefully corrected, my kids are up and blasting Gangam Style (with dance party) from Alexa and I can't hear my own thoughts.

Good. Even though I hate/hated the Saints, I always had a soft spot for Joe as he is a Fayetteville (my hometown) legend. Nice to see things come full circle and he is back in NC via his son. Happy to have them both here. Jaycee is gonna be a beast. Also, someone let Joe know, if he didn't realize how the media feels about us, check out when they go to extended commercial breaks during the draft. P.S. - Aaron Rodgers is a whiny, attention whore, just like his predecessor, and is following his exact same late-career-crisis blueprint.

Well, you can hit the hay apparently. I think we traded all the way into the 4th, so we're done for the night.

Welp, there went Long. Jabril Cox it is.

Yup, that's what I'm thinking too.

Anyone think Hunter Long would be a good pick with our next selection here?

Ok, now... i'm really starting to like Fitterer. I panicked a bit bc I flashed back to Hurney and Gettleman days, but they NEVER did this. We got a first round level WR this late, and a guy at 6'3" with 4.3 speed and a huge catch radius. AND he played and excelled under our current OC. That is an incredible get and although it wasn't a need, this value may be the best of the draft. Just incredible.

Great value. But, did we trade back up to take him? ESPN radio said we traded with the Eagles to get ot his pick?

Do they think we're a good enough team that a player can't help us at these picks? Smh...

Look the first one i didnt like. Now they're really starting to piss me off.

No doubt, they are playing an extremely high-stakes game at the most pivotal position league-wide. You can't afford to get it wrong. So, I hope they're right... but, passing on a guy with a rocket arm, 4.4. 40, and a resume that includes huge games against top-level programs for a guy with a "good" arm and ok measurables just doesn't sit well with me. But again, I hope they're right.

Because I'm hoping for the best but not a believer at all in Darnold, I still am holding out hope that maybe Howell slides a bit because of his size and we get a shot at him next draft.

Yeah, and thats a great angle I hadn't thought about of it's true. I wonder if we really liked Lance and that was who they would consider of he had fell, or as you said, they weren't interested in a QB at all.

Well, if others don't know what you do, maybe you should share it instead of getting into condescending mudslinging and basement-dwelling insults. While Scot just told me what Zack shared - who has always been as plugged in as anyone we've had here - I was not wrong in connecting the dots that were shown to us publicly. I can't dispute or deny what Zack heard, but I have to maintain that publicly, Rhule and Brady went above and beyond to let it be known Teddy was "their" guy. So, now that I know Marty had more of a hand in it than I realized, it doesn't completely absolve them from shared responsibility in it. As Scot offered in his above reply to me, it's fair to assume they had a big hand in it, but Marty apparently was the driving force in making it happen. And also, now that I know that tidbit, he was a much bigger idiot than even I gave him credit for.

What a fuging idiot. Does he know many coaches play schemes based off the personnel they have available, which can change from year to year? My God, what an idiot. Wow. Just wow.

Quality post. Way to get in the mud for no fuging reason.

Who, Verge? I 100% believe her, but she is telling us what she's heard. It can't be confirmed. Whereas, we heard directly from Rhule and Brady over and over again, that Teddy was their guy and their decision. So, we know that for a fact. Now, I agree on the contract part, but if they said that's their guy and thats who they want, then I assume Tepper would've signed off on whatever it took to sign him. From everything Tepper, Rhule, and Brady said last offseason through the season, it sounds like they were calling the shots. I dont think its coincidental we heard less and less from Hurney after Rivera was fired. There was also the rumors that Tepper was ready to move on from Cam because he was seen as a holdover from Hurney/Rivera/JR's regime and he wanted his own guy to start fresh with (combined with the injury history, obviously). That's what I'm going off of... what we saw and heard from the team.

I've never seen it confirmed that it was Hurney's move. What i have heard and asked repeatedly was Rhule and Brady telling every play-by-play guy game in and game out last season that Brady has an existing relationship with Teddy and said if he got the chance to be an OC in the NFL that Teddy was the guy he wanted as his QB. Since it didn't pan out and Hurney was let go, all of a sudden it's become some sort of revisionist fact that it was all Hurney's doing and I haven't heard any official account confirm that. I have no narrative. You have the wrong guy. I want facts. I want to know for certain who did what and why, and if I know that, I can't dispute it. I dont give a poo about Hurney, and I've said numerous times that Rhule appears to be a great talent evaluator and developer as a coach, with the one caveat being, if Teddy was his guy and his decision, then evaluation of QBs appears to be a problem.

I know it has become en vogue to attribute that move to Hurney, probably because it makes it more palatable now that he's gone, and although we've never gotten a completely clear picture on that, last season Rhule and Brady went out of their way to tell anyone that would listen that Teddy was their guy who they targeted and brought in. So, despite the FO changes, I am holding the coaching staff responsible for that. TBH, in hindsight, I think Hurney had very little influence on the roster after Rhule was hired.

I'm not entirely sure, but I know he's got it and it's been verified.

Man, idk what it is, but Payton has it out for us. I know I'm biased, obviously, but it just doesn't seem like they're ever competing with Tampa and Atlanta for the same players in the draft or FA, but especially the draft. Yet, every year, we hear these stories and this behind the scenes chess game being played where they know who we want or target and they do everything they can to maneuver around us to get them. And I'll never forget that last game where we brought in Steven's last year after all that happened with him and them, and the camera went to the sideline everytime Steven's came in and Payton kept doing that arrogant, dismissive laugh. Dude is a certified asshole.

Good any day we get a chance to screw them before they screw us is a good day. I'm telling you, those MFs live to ruin our plans.

I agree. Just wanted to share my concerns. Like I said, I LOVE Horn and wanted him, even at 8 if that's how it shook out, and it did... but, I was surprised Fields was still there too. The lamenting after the fact is really because I believe in Fields more than Darnold, and no matter what else we do this offseason, everything hinges on whether or not Darnold is even an average QB, and that's scary. Regardless of that, I definitely look forward to seeing Horn develop into the dominant force I think he will become.

Not necessarily surefire, but I definitely believe in him more than Darnold. I didnt like Darnold coming out of USC, and what he showed in NY was exactly about what I expected from him when he was drafted. Now, yes, Gase is a trainwreck and that certainly didn't help... but again, it's concerning. I KNOW Fields ceiling is exponentially higher than Darnold's, and I think his floor is higher too.