Proudiddy

Always appreciate you, AL. But it’s clear if you look at the initial post and the amount of poo reactions I got combined with all the decades old burns these troglodytes typed up, the vast majority of their objections are rooted in Shedeur and Deion hate. I have seen a ton of “If Deion wasn’t his dad” arguments, but let me flip that - If Deion wasn’t his dad, and as a 5th round rookie, he just threw for 350+ yards and had 4 TDs, 99% of these guys would be interested in acquiring him. I see why our fanbase is such a joke… these the same folks who have spent 30 years hemming and hawing “well, there’s always next year,” or argued Chris Weinke should be starting over Jake through 2006, or we should’ve drafted Marcel Dareus over Cam. They’re okay with mediocrity. We finally have vaulted ourselves into contention in spite of the QB who has tried to play us out of it most games, and now they’re fat and happy and cool with the bare minimum from the QB position, so the cycle continues. Dont get me wrong, again, for the sake of this year I hope Bryce goes on a magical run, and against all odds, we win the Super Bowl. But after the last 3 years, even if he does, we would be dumb to not still bring in competition to start at the QB position.

As I’ve said in other threads, the amount of chances Bryce has been given is the definition of entitlement. I’ve never before seen a guy be handed something he’s done everything in his power to piss away and show he wasn’t deserving of it. He has been given chance after chance after chance and at every turn, he showed he wasn’t deserving. And not only was he still given the job, but this organization went out of their way to coddle him and ensure nothing threatened his ego or confidence - measures usually reserved for proven franchise QBs. Deion may have put Shedeur in advantageous positions, but Shedeur is overcoming adversity on his own and he is showing out.

And despite that, he has been given nothing by the NFL and Stefanski. His own HC has tried to sabotage him and Shedeur still worked and just put up a performance no rookie QB has within such a short time frame since the merger. It wasn’t handed to him. He earned it.

Can’t hold us responsible if the NBA didn’t disclose it either.

Some of this is just brainstorming/throwing poo against the wall, seeing as how we have one of the least talented QB rooms in the league. We need a talent infusion badly. I feel Shedeur has the prerequisite talent athletically and as a passer, and I have since his college career. Do I think he will actually be traded this offseason? 99% not likely. On one hand, he’s proven to likely be the best QB on their roster. On the other, they, and no other team wanted to take a chance on him for 4 rounds, so there has to be a price they would be willing to part ways with him for. That’s why I brought up the Joe Milton situation as an example. He was drafted to a team who took another rookie QB much earlier in the draft, spent his rookie year with them, then was traded before his second year for a relatively low value. But, again, I also think the attention Shedeur naturally garners makes teams uncomfortable about rostering him if he’s not a starter. I don’t think we trade for him, and I don’t think the Browns trade him anywhere. That being said, this is a message board. Possibilities are fun to discuss and we’re here for discussion. also,I’m talking about a trade for a mid-late round pick for a talented QB/developmental QB on his rookie deal; that is the antithesis of the Matt Flynn situation. He had a solid couple games in GB and Seattle broke the bank on him and he bombed big time. That’s a valley of difference between the situations.

lol Shedeur is a rookie and is already better than Bryce. Bryce didn’t have a single game like that as a rookie. Shedeur has only started, what? 2 or 3 games? And it’s not after one good game, I’ve been saying he was possibly the best QB in this draft class - number two at worst, prior to the draft. I think he fell because owners had an axe to grind with Deion and Shedeur also suffers from the same issue Cam faced as a personality - he’s too big to be a backup and teams don’t want that distraction in their backup.

You guys sure have some sick burns for people who have preached patience for 3 straight years to wait for a QB to show us he is the 32nd ranked starting QB since he’s been in the league. I also said to never trade up in the 2023 draft and wait for Drake Maye the next year. Yet, here we are. But yuck it up fellas…

Regardless of how our season goes, most unanimously agree, we need to revamp the QB position. I been banging the table for Shedeur for a few years now, and he is proving his worth… we honestly should’ve drafted him but it doesn’t matter now. I think he’s going to have a similar path as Joe Milton, where he was drafted late and flipped for a slightly better pick than where he was drafted at prior to his second year. Maybe a 4th rounder? also, Stefanski is a POS.

First place. And fug the saints and bucs.

Zavala is the new Kugbila.

Damn. This feels a lot like the Wilks year all of a sudden. I know we didn’t have to sweep them, but everything hinging on what we do against Tampa. Sigh…

Was looking at a Bill Barnwell article on it earlier and the FPI has Tampa with a 70.2 % chance to win the division and us at 20.8%. I do feel better knowing if we can get to 10 wins, and maybe even 9 depending on what happens above us, we hold tiebreakers over 3 of those teams - and that’s not even knowing what Tampa will do outside of our games, but I hope they have a meltdown.

I also love that Jake and Luke are still so invested in this organization’s success. They still feel a part of it.

Yeah, ngl, I really, really, really thought he was 1000% gonna get that poo punched out. I was holding my breath the whole return… honestly, it was a shitty play by the Rams player.

I hope he goes to the AFC and I know the Chiefs were the other consideration when he originally signed with us, but I don’t think their contention chances are very high. I briefly thought about if we could bring him back to help, but I don’t want him taking snaps or roles away from the younger guys. I’d much rather XL or Horn get any snaps Thielen would take.

Ahhh! I had no idea the rules changed after the trade deadline. Welp, I guess his leverage is all those trash teams know not to sign him because of his stated wants.

I don’t believe he is subject to waivers. I think if they have more than 4 years played or something like that, they’re no longer subject to waivers. They’re a vested vet and free to sign wherever they want.

That three consecutive plays he blew up Williams needs to be put in The Louvre. I don’t recall the last time a safety got three shots like that in on one guy, in one series, nor consecutively. Insane. Love his physicality, and I think he’s got great potential in coverage as well.

I’m not even so much worried about who we play after the bye, so much as how we are going to play coming off of the bye.

Glad we have both of them. I think Rico is more explosive, but Chuba is a grinder who really finishes runs strong. I also think Chuba looked really bad initially coming back from that injury, because as he admitted, he wasn’t 100%. Now, I think Rico is banged up and Chuba is back fully healthy. Thankful for the bye week being scheduled when it was.

While I don’t disagree with Key’s take at all, I’ll add the caveats that: *you have to have a QB you trust to do those things *he has to do them consistently and that’s been the issue with Bryce. We don’t and he hasn’t. I’m hoping he does the remainder of this season. Also, I think it goes without saying, for Key’s musts to work, you have to have a great defense and incredible run game in the modern NFL. Again, what he cites can work, but it is a bit of an antiquated approach to quarterbacking and offense in general now. That was a great blueprint in the 90s. It can work, but it’s tough to have all those pieces align.

I think all of Scot’s points stand except the 5th year option being guaranteed. If you’re Dan Morgan or Canales, are you worried about letting Bryce walk and facing him as an opponent? I would be licking my chops to play him. I think that should be the measure of whether you lock him in. FO would be remiss if they believe they can’t find multiple QBs out there right now who are an upgrade over Bryce. If they want to keep him and bring in legit competition so be it. What we absolutely cannot do is go into another season with him being coddled and the only option to legitimately start.

I said it in another thread during the week, but the issue under Canales/Bryce has been and continues to be when we don’t need it/expect it, the team shows up. When we need it/expect it, they don’t show up. That HAS to change down the stretch. because I agree, the division should be ours. There are ZERO excuses. We just beat Stafford and the Rams while half our fuging defense was out with injuries, including our best coverage man. That poo says it all. There are literally no excuses for us to not win the games in front of us.