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If he possesses the level of intelligence he is reported to have, there is no way he has watched this season and can rationally arrive at the conclusion that there will be any improvement. And that is why it feels like just a huge middle finger to the fanbase.

Look at that gutsy run by Sam giving himself up 3 yards short of the marker on 3rd and 6. Pussy.

Yup. And he's right, "they both can do that," but one was so great at it, he split his scapula in half while doing so. Definitely the guy for the job.

Also, the more I have watched of him, the more I realize how wrong I was. Jermaine Carter is not a JAG. He just sucks.

Decided to watch some, being its the last game of the season and was hoping to see BC and Brown today... Good to see we're still throwing 3 yard routes on 3rd and 12.

Miller has absolutely looked this season, like the worst interior OLineman I have ever witnessed. But last season we had Michael Schofield and Chris Reed, as well as Miller. Schofield didn't start, but last I checked was starting for the Chargers this season and looked very good. Reed looked like the worst interior lineman we had fielded that I could remember, and he ended up starting with Indy this season. Interesting to say the least.

Apparently rolled ankle in last practice of the week.

Mike Oxyooj has also been very popular for years. His cousin Mike Oxsmall is not as in-demand, but sources say he knows how to get the most out of what he is given to work with.

Miller was not on the injury report this week. Trent Scott is expected to start in his place, though Deonte Brown is also expected to play. That will mark the 13th combination of starting offensive linemen in 17 games for the Panthers. PANTHERS INACTIVES QB P.J. Walker S Jeremy Chinn S Sean Chandler LB Kamal Martin DE Jacob Tuioti-Mariner DE Azur Kamara G John Miller So, looks like Brown will play but Trent Scott starts... ahh, college coaches, when will they learn?

Simply put... this. And again, it makes no fuging sense to put us behind every other team with a vacancy if this is Tepper's mandate. No OC worth their salt are gonna wanna come here. So what? We wait to fire him until March? May? Late February at best? It makes no sense. And again, outside of the maybe the Rams OC, neither of the other guys are inspiring. And I dont know why any of them would want to come into this situation regardless, other than maybe the hope that they will be inheriting the chance to be HC again - and judging from Gruden and BOB's previous tenures, that would just be more assured dysfunction. Tepper is horrible.

It just makes no fuging sense from any perspective you look at it from. Why would any of those guys come here and work for a lame duck coach, as others have said? And not just any lame duck coach, but a control freak and egomaniac? And why would you want to come coach THIS offense he built? Ewww... And why would Rhule want to hire an experienced NFL coach who he can't fully control or bully like he does his cult of peons that have depended on him to make a living for the last however many years? Why would he want to hire a guy who actually knows how an experienced NFL coach and staff should operate, so when he's clearly in over his head - as he is - then they know too. And for us fans... if we know Rhule sucks and its just a matter of time before he is canned, especially if Glazer's report is true - why would we want a failed HC and uninspiring hire in guys like O'Brien or Gruden? So, once Rhule is fired, they become the interim and then possibly the permanent HC so we're stuck in another cycle of dysfunction for however many years after Rhule? And that's not even considering that Glazer's report calls O'Brien and Gruden "Rockstar OCs." Ummm... They are anything but... so if this is Tepper's view, my God, we are in more trouble than we thought. Tepper just seems to reveal himself as worse and worse as an owner with each passing week.

Came to post this.

An educated hunch?

Already knew it was Tomlin before I clicked on the thread. And I agree... he may be my favorite coach in the league because dude is 100% real, through and through. And funny enough, Tepper was one of the Steelers minority owners that wanted him gone lol... pair that with his Rhule hire and that tells you what Tepper knows about football and what kind of judge of character he is. fuging imbecile... should probably stick to screwing retail investors out of their life savings and such.

I agree about Rhule. But as far as Brady, hindsight is 20/20. I wanted him because that LSU passing offense was so explosive and dynamic. Yes, I know they had otherworldly talent, but it was clear in watching them that guys were being schemed open. Yeah, Chase, Jefferson, and TMJ could get open on their own, but they didn't have to. So much of what they ran was routes getting other routes open, and it very much looked like a more explosive version of what Brady learned under in New Orleans. To further that point, New Orleans is currently running a whole receiving corps of borderline NFL talent, and yet, their passing offense is still and always will be as long as Payton is there, light-years beyond what we have - and its because of the scheme. They make the defense make decisions... defense have to give something up every play, but they have to decide what that is. So, taking that back to Brady, that looked exactly like what he ran at LSU, so I figured thats what we were getting here. But, after seeing what we ran for over a year and a half under him, and now seeing the offense without him, and combining that with what we know about Rhule apparently being a dictator both in scheme and personnel and all things trivial... it's clear this offense was not Joe Brady's. This offense wasn't LSU. This offense wasn't New Orleans. This offense was and is Matt Rhule's, and what we saw while Brady was here was Brady trying to fit that square peg into a round hole... he was given the ability to call plays, but within the strict confines of what Rhule expected. And now with Nixon that has been crystallized.

As someone who wanted Brady as OC that offseason, and then wanted him fired this season, it was a tough lesson to learn, but it is clear it was not him. What we're seeing is Rhule's idea of what he thinks a successful system is - and the offense makes up probably 15% of that system. He invests minimally in it, and as such, ideally, he wants a game manager who has little impact, good or bad, on the game itself, and he wants to control the clock. Thats why he dumped Cam for Teddy and then Sam, and he thought that would be enough that the offense could just be put on autopilot with his basic skeleton of how it should be run and what it should look like. I think he sees the spread and short passes out of it as an extension of the running game, but the problem is, he and his whole staff are so incompetent, they don't realize they have to mix things up so defenses don't know what they're running every play. As I have been saying, and as the article pointed out with Sam, when people started yelling about Cam not throwing it deep, it had nothing to do with Cam and everything to so with the offense. It is remedial and archaic. Sam literally attempted ZERO passes beyond 20 yards on Sunday, BY DESIGN. So, every Sunday, we have teams sitting just above these short and intermediate routes waiting to jump them, run the routes for them, or destroy our guys once it is caught, because they know exactly what we're running every play. It's a joke.. we as outsiders couldn't know it was Rhule until Brady was fired... but now we know. Boy, do we know - it's all Rhule. You should absolutely be able to, LP. I think back to that year the Broncos inserted The Golden Calf of Bristol in the lineup under John Fox. Now, obviously, our familiarity with John Fox allows us to know that he was no offensive guru. He stayed true to his defensive roots and allowed his offensive staff to handle that side of the ball,, but he still oversaw it and had a general idea of how it should run... but, that year, they had Mike McCoy running the offense (who also had his ties to here), who. Although respected, I don't think has ever been considered some innovative, cutting-edge offensive coach, but a very good one. But his ability to adapt and adjust from Kyle Orton (iirc) to The Golden Calf of Bristol in the middle of a season, was absolutely remarkable. I believe much of what they ran with The Golden Calf of Bristol wasn't even originally in their playbook, in large part because they inherited him from McDaniels and it was already clear he was a square peg even under McDaniels. Regardless, they installed entirely new concepts mid-season and made it work... all the way to the playoffs. For all the flack John Fox has gotten over the years, I don't think he gets enough credit. Is he conservative to a fault by default? Yes. But, that guy was smart. He knew how to get the most out of the least. He adapted. He adjusted. And most of all, he was a professional. He knew when to delegate and when to take a step back when something was out of his depths. He knew how to coach guys on this level. None of which are characteristics Matt Rhule possesses.

I know I've been beating this dead horse to death but: This next sequence shows back-to-back plays where the Panthers need an intermediate completion but cannot execute because of all the routes run are short. The Saints know Darnold wants the ball out quickly and therefore sit on every underneath route with no fear of getting beat deep. That is exactly what I've been saying the entire season and it is 100% completely indicative of why this staff is incompetent. In fact, I just mentioned it in a thread yesterday... how we saw the same garbage with Teddy, Cam, and Sam, and especially with Teddy because he had an actual solid OL and we still would run 2 yards drags on 3rd or 4th down and long. And again, the way this offense is run, it would make the greatest QBs ever look putrid, even in their prime. I keep screaming to the mountaintops, that Cam can still be a Top 15 QB, but this offense made him look like he shouldn't even be in a uniform against Miami. This offense did the same thing to Teddy who is a solid middling to bottom-third starter in the league, and Sam, who is an NFL player, albeit a backup at best. It's not the players, it's the coaches... and for people who haven't watched it and just looked at stats, there's no way to explain that to them, but again, I have never seen anything so dysfunctional in all my years of being in and around the game of football. It is completely unacceptable, and being that we're going on 2 years of it now, it's clear Tepper doesn't give a poo about winning. You don't let this stuff continue at record levels of incompetence if you did. poo has nothing to do with a process because a process implies steps are being made to improve, and we have actually gotten worse - much worse. And again, it is all because Rhule is in over his head and has no idea what he's doing, but refuses to seek out someone who does because he doesn't want his ego threatened... it is a complete recipe for continued and utter disaster and we're already seeing the results.

Aside from trading for Darnold, Rhule should be fired alone for not attempting to start the janitor over Miller or Jordan. My God. Miller is not even an NFL player, but yet, here he is, starting every week as though he is Rhule's idea of Larry fuging Allen.

And to piggyback off of some of the other posts I'm reading here about Sam... idgaf about his arm talent. There are millions of people in the world that, if trained, could throw a ball on a rope 70 yards downfield. But what makes a pro, a pro, is their ability to read a defense and process what they're seeing and react accordingly. It's what separates the physically talented from the professionals. Ok, great, Sam has a relatively strong arm (and tbh, I haven't even been that impressed with his arm strength either), but if he can't read a defense it means absolutely nothing. It's like basketball... I can be 6'9" with crazy hops and athleticism, but if I don't have basketball IQ and I don't have the refined motor skills to handle the ball and put myself in a position to score or get others in that position, then what am I good for? An occasional putback dunk on a highlight reel? Hustle plays and defense? So I might occasionally have a good night, but you can never depend on me. That's what Sam is. You can have an absolute cannon for an arm and the speed and physicality of Vick and Cam combined, but if you can't read a defense it means absolutely nothing because it can't be utilized. You might get lucky here or there, but it will never be consistent. We've seen hundreds of guys like this over the years, and sadly, I think the stats would bear out that if you don't come in with that ability, you don't ever develop it. You just don't. Sam is what he is and always has been... and he won't be the first, nor the last of his ilk. And it's why that trade never made any fuging sense whatsoever.

That sure will net us a lot of good LBs and safeties once we trade it to move back.

Yup. Which again why this situation with Rhule is so hopeless. I had a friend yesterday as we were talking about our teams say something about what we needed to pick up in FA to fix holes on the team and I replied," that's not happening. No self-respecting player with any aspirations of winning would come here to play under this staff." If fans know it's a circus, players talk, so they definitely know. Combine that with the offensive "scheme" we're actually seeing on the field, and I just don't see how Tepper thinks keeping Rhule is beneficial at all... you can't improve if you have almost no draft picks and a league full of players that know not to come play for your egomaniacal, narcissistic amateur coach. If Rhule is here for a third year, which he is all but guaranteed to be at this point, it will take us at least 5 years to dig ourselves out of the hole he creates.

It's what I've been saying, that has been clear since Cam came back. Look at the difference between them. Cam takes the snap and stands tall. He drops back, reads the defense, and tries to hit the read that is open based off what he sees. Now, sometimes he is forced to do so from awkward stances or while falling back, etc., but he is calm, cool, and collected. He only runs when he sees there is nothing there. Sam takes a snap, and his feet are immediately jittery and all over the place, he more often than not is looking down at his OL and the pressure from the opposing rusher so he can't or doesn't read the defense, and he essentially is what I like to call the "one-read and run" QB. He's so scared of pressure and getting hit, that he tries to look for that first read and if its not there, he is tucking it and running. There have been exceptions, but more often than not, he is already thinking of running before the ball is in his hands... and honestly, there are plays where he immediately tucks it as soon as he gets the snap even though he is looking downfield. He is abysmal. The common denominator between both Sam and Cam is that regardless of how they look, or how much better Cam processes and controls a game, neither of them can do much because the offensive scheme and coaching is so fuging horrible. Cam is obviously more productive and capable, and again, I maintain he could still be a Top 15 QB in the league, but this offense is the worst I have ever seen. I didnt actively watch the game yesterday, as I said, I am no longer dedicating my Sundays to Rhule coached teams (and man it felt so liberating) but from the bits I saw, it was the same old crap... he got his boy in there, and they're throwing the ball to a swing route 3 yards behind the LOs with no blockers on 3rd and 9 or something like that. 4th and 10? Let's throw it to the RB on a check route sitting at the LOS. 3rd and 12? Let's throw a 2 yard drag route. It's the same poo we saw with Teddy last year. It's what we saw with Sam this season. It's what we saw with Cam when he was in there. It is a flawed system and again, idc if they had Rodgers, Brees, or Brady in there - unless they were calling their own plays, they are going to have career-worst years and look like pure poo. I have never seen anything like it... I just don't understand the goal of it all? And again, we saw the same fatal flaws in the scheme last season with Teddy, and we had a better OL, so it's not that they don't have time... the plays themselves are complete poo. I say all of that to say, Sam looks horrible because he is horrible. I just don't think he's a starting QB because he can't read defenses, at least not consistently. But, this offense is worse, and it makes any QB that plays in it look their absolute worst as well... but, there is no point in running this experiment with Sam anymore. It is a lost cause. And I want to bring Cam back to lead us until we can draft and develop a young guy, but honestly, thats what makes this Rhule situation so hopeless... it's clear that as long as he is here, and as long as we're running his idea of a system, it doesn't fuging matter who we have on offense - it is going to be a trainwreck.

While Breer is right, some of that stuff may have been there already, I feel a lot of that behavior wasn't. I've read anecdotal things from people who lived in Pittsburgh and knew/interacted with AB, and they said there was a clear shift in his demeanor and person after the Burfict hit. I dont know what he was like before it, but I know from the interviews I've seen and just general interactions since, he definitely appears to be mentally ill. Like talking to someone and you know they're aren't processing what you're saying. He seems obtuse and tbh, like when you'd see his interactions on hard knocks, regardless of editing, the conversations were almost painful. Not to excuse him of responsibility for his own actions, but he just does not seem well at all. I also have seen some national pundits parallel the shift in AB's behavior to that of Vincent Jackson's, and VJ was universally loved throughout his life, but his behavior took an erratic and sharp turn after he retired relatively young.

Nope. Expected to lose and wanted to lose. We need to maximize the one high draft pick we have, and hopefully, if we finish winless it gets Rhule fired, but I doubt it. I was actually surprised Payton didn't let us win.

John Miller clearly has evidence somewhere that Rhule likes butt stuff.