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That was the one I saw before Ickey gave up two sacks. That was rough... and discouraging. I know he has time to get better, but I didn't expect to see that.

TBH, in terms of poise and composure specifically, he reminds me a lot of Darnold and Pickles. It just looks horrible. Happy feet, just tossing the ball up when he feels pressure, and despite being athletic, it looks like his legs are dead when he tries to take off to scramble. And yeah, those picks were about as bad as it can get. I understand he came from a very remedial offense in college and there's a steep learning curve, but that has very little to do with your decision making once the ball is snapped. I get he doesn't know fully what he's looking at yet, but that tossing the ball up like he is just looks like one of those traits that guys don't do/have if they're going to be any kind of good. In comparison, Zappe looked damn good and composed. He only fuged up on the pick because he clearly doesn't have a strong arm and he locked on to a sideline throw and threw it late. That's gonna happen to even the most seasoned QB on any late throw to the sidelines. Outside of that play, he was composed, decisive, showed great anticipation, and for the most part, accuracy. It looked like night and day in contrast with Corral.

The NASCAR analogy about left turns was classic Smitty.

Idk man. Matt definitely looked better, but he still looked bad. Those deep throws were especially troubling. I know the blocking was atrocious, but I don't see anything to be excited about with Matt right now. And PJ played like poo tonight. Usually, he'll have one or two big mistakes, but he has several big plays/throws to outweigh them. He only had the bad plays tonight.

It's so hard to explain, because Daley really looked promising his rookie year. But he has progressively gotten worse each year since. It is both disappointing and fascinating.

I honestly don't think I will even watch. This is an exercise in futility. I don't know that our depth has ever been this bad. Don't get me wrong, the starters and top half or so of the roster is about as deep and as talented as we have ever had, but man... some of these 2nd and 3rd string guys... whew.

The blocking is horrible, but unless Corral is hurt, putting Walker back in is bullshit. That aside, I think I've seen enough to state with confidence that Matt Corral is not the future at QB. Abs now with an injury, I expect they're going to IR him and keep Darnold and PJ ad the backups and sign Baker long-term.

I agree from that standpoint.

I agree to disagree, Scot. I think he's more of an NFL QB than Sam. I'm not saying PJ is a starter. I'm not saying he's some incredible talent. But I trust him more than I do Sam, and thus, with what we have, I would rather keep him than Sam.

As I've stated repeatedly, I think PJ is actually the second best QB on this roster currently. I like PJ. But I just don't understand the logic behind this. Whether you are like me and think we should cut Darnold and PJ should be the backup, or if you think PJ is the odd man out at the final cuts, it doesn't make sense in either scenario. Don't get me wrong, Matt looked like a deer in headlights in game one, and a really scared one at that. He looked overwhelmed. But, I've made it a point to emphasize, that's partly a product of not getting reps in practice/preseason games, and being surrounded by mostly roster filler in the 4th quarter of a preseason game. So, despite how bad he looked, I would like to see him with some NFL level talent around him for an extended amount of time. Even if he gets the 2nd half tonight, it's still gonna be with mostly roster fodder and future cuts. And this brings us back to why the reps they're wasting on Darnold are so important.

Per ESPN... Smh.

Oh, he also said even though the report came out about Baker being named the starter already, he expects it to be made official sooner than later.

I actually meant to post, Gantt was in local radio here in Raleigh earlier and said the majority of the action will be 2nd and 4rd stringers tomorrow and that the staff wants to get Corral some more meaningful reps with a better supporting cast around him... and Gantt is in an official capacity with the team, so there you have it. I still think PJ will get a bulk of the snaps, but I'm curious if they let Corral go first with the 2s first?

I actually saw a podcast clip from Chris Long where he and the co-hosts showed the clip, were laughing at it, and said they should make "You sick f*ck" the ad across the walls behind the endzones. I think it's likely it becomes the go-to chant of opposing fans.

I've thought about that, but I don't think it's possible considering this was agreed to by both the NFLPA and the NFL. And the NFL reportedly wanted an entire season at minimum, so I'm thinking this isn't really the kind of suspension he can appeal.

Per ESPN/Schefter. Dude is indeed diabolical horny and a predator, but I do/did believe in his on-field ability, but after seeing/hearing early reviews of how he's looked, then add an 11 game suspension on top of missing a full year before that... that's gonna be tough to come back from. Also, unless Brissett can set the world on fire, it sounds like a wasted year for the Browns. Deshaun Watson and NFL agree to 11-game suspension, $5M fine for violations of personal conduct policy - Adam Schefter http://espn.com/app

Yup. Go get him.

Well if this is true, they need to quit giving Sam all those fake ass reps and split then between Matt and PJ.

Yeah, he seemed to be relaying what he was told and acted on that, but he did say that he saw "grainy" video of it while at practice, so apparently that was enough... but I know He said they were going to make a decision after reviewing everything... I hope that was more just talk to quell the outrage from the outside, because i maintain, KRob is a good player and someone we definitely can use. Great hitter, great instincts, and just has always seemed like a playmaker to me.

Great post, because I forgot to mention Pleasants. I have no effin idea where he came from, but I completely agree with you. I was impressed with him as well... and yes, they should definitely be taking Jordan/Erving spots from what I saw Saturday. Looking forward to seeing more of both.

Yeah, as I told ForJimmy, I feel like he slipped because of him playing so many different positions, and as he pointed out, probably because of injuries, because the resume and tape would indicate the dude is a hell of a football player. I had no idea he was projected that high, though... but I know watching him, you can see why he was. Dude is a dog.

Yeah, I didn't know about his injury history, but I suspected him playing every position on the line may have actually been a factor in him falling like he did too despite the positive connotations with versatility. A guy starting 35 games, across multiple positions, across two different SEC schools is damn impressive and has got to mean something as well. All I know is, everything I've seen of him is impressive and I could see him becoming a big time starter.

I respectfully disagree. Ian has never lived up to even a tenth of what he could be. Efron has had some quality years and is light-years ahead of Ian as a receiver, regardless of his condition now. Issue is, I think if we had any interest, they would've already expressed it, so this is all probably moot.

Interesting. I was just telling a friend last night, with the disclaimer that I know it's preseason and we've only played one game, but Mays looked outstanding and we may have gotten a steal with him. He was mean, nasty, and finishing blocks with bad intentions against WAS. From what I saw, I can see starter potential, and a very good starter at that... although I thought it would be at guard, that would be amazing if he could step up and secure the center spot away from Elflien while Bozeman is out. I believed and thought that Bozeman would be the starter, but Rhule's reluctance to put him ahead of Elf, and the seeming emergence of Mays seems like right place at the right time kind of stuff. It's also a sign of a great team on the come up...

Yeah, but sometimes you'd rather deal with a problem you know than one you don't... It's pretty evident he doesnt prefer him over guys like Franklin who have played a similar role. Robinson has been cut multiple times and stashed in the PS, then brought back. And everytime he has seen the field, he has seemed to make big plays. And IIRC, the official website ran an article later last season after he finally got an extended look and more snaps whete Rhule admitted he was playing great and that he shouldve been given more snaps/opportunities before. And I want to say he described him as a guy with starter ability... I also think he made the comments about BC having should've been given more snaps in that same article. So Rhule has acknowledged the guy is good, has and does make plays for us whenever he is given the chance to, yet, he never seems to want him in that position to do so.