Proudiddy

Welp, there goes the first QB domino.

The baby wanted them to stfu and let him sleep too.

Damn, bro... did not expect him to go that early. I'll take the blame for it. Beane is still lurking my posts, I see.

I think Baker is ok. I think he can elevate into the Top 15, or sink in the bottom 15 or so in the league depending on the variables around him. That being said, I think he stunk so badly last season because of the injuries. I think 2020 Baker is more of what to expect when healthy, and thats good enough to win.

My thoughts too. Either he will be an heir apparent or the immediate successor, and considering I dont think CMC will ever play a full season again, I choose the latter. Cook would be perfect.

I dont mind moving into the 3rd. That is a lot more palatable than having to move up in the 2nd.

Yup. Shouldnt be too hard to pull a deal off for a later pick, though. The Browns cut themselves off at the knees when they traded for Watson and let it be known Baker wasn't in their plans moving forward.

I'd also like to point out at this time, that I would love to pick up Cook from UGA in the later rounds. I really think he could end up producing like his brother in the pros.

Lol the only reason I care is that it does fall in our favor. So I don't want them drafted until we're ready to take one lol. We got the guy I wanted yesterday, and now I'd like one of these rookie QBs tonight at some point. The issue is so many of these mouth breathers want to make everything a dichotomous pissing contest... not everything is so simple and paint-by-the-numbers as they'd like to distill it down to. But, i guess people just like to argue.

Didn't say that. I said they're full of themselves and involuntarily become convinced of their expertise and things can quickly become trendy among peers. It also had to do with not as many teams needing a starting QB combined with none of these guys being overly impressive for whatever reason last season. It doesn't mean they aren't or won't be good pros.

I honestly think we're just keeping them on the back burner... my guess is we're trying to find the threshold where the value in trading up matches with where the QBs are projected to go. If they don't feel those matrices line up, Baker is the backup plan or complementary plan for a day 3 pick.

A lot of this is NFL FOs hubris at work. They're convinced they know none of these QBs are a franchise guy, and they're gonna show us. Just like 20 some teams thought Aaron Rodgers was a system QB, and just as many thought Lamar Jackson was just a RB, and all 32 teams passed over Russell Wilson at least twice. It's a joke. I almost guarantee every single one of the big name guys left right now will be better pros than Sam fuging Darnold. Hell, Howell was projected as a potential #1 overall pick after the 2020 season... now all of a sudden he can't play football?

Man, I have to think so.

I dont give a poo what he did in college. The point was Norris said people watched these QBs as though they're all horrible. I watched Sam in college and thought he would be exactly what he is now. These same scouts watched him too, and yet decided despite the fact that he's a complete spaz, struggled to be decisive and accurate as a passer, and repeatedly forced throws and turned the ball over incessantly, that he was worthy of a third overall pick. So, my point being, what they think doesn't mean poo. They don't always get it right.

Sorry, Sam.

And yet, the NFL/Jets drafted Sam Darnold at #3 overall a few years ago. Could mean something, but also could mean nothing.

Ooooooh yeah, I forgot all about Monday. Was just thinking more about how it always seems they desperately want to move off Cousins.

Nevermind.

I think the Vikings HAVE to go QB. Right???

Funny enough, I've been thinking about him a lot over the last 24 hours in how his draft experience mirrors what is happening now with these QBs.

Absolutely not. If it was solely up to him, I'm sure his ideal approach isn't any rookie but rather another retread/another team's leftovers because of the better chance to win now. Luckily for us, I don't think he's in the driver's seat anymore. I honestly wouldn't mind moving up to get one of these rookie QBs, and if the reports are true, also trade a 3rd day pick for Mayfield and may the best man win.

Welp, @Mr. Scot... they didn't take him, or any other QB, at either pick.. a bit surprised, but happy because if we make a move, the value gets better for us.

I think so. Two back to back picks. It makes sense. And if they don't, the fall continues and works in our favor. Someone else posted in one of the threads that Dan Patrick was reporting that according to his sources, no teams were touching Willis until the 3rd. I think if that holds true, it is reflective more of his level of comp and inconsistency as a passer holding more weight with scouts than his potential.

Seattle gotta go Willis with one of these picks. Funny enough, I have said if he actually develops into his potential, he could be a Russell Wilson-type talent... and that would suck that we finally got that guy out of the NFC if they get his replacement the same year lol.

I said it last night, and I'll say it again... the value is there now.