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And there was no doubt Russell was talented. He did what he did without even studying fuging film or knowing gameplans lol. He just didn't give a poo and had zero motivation to be great. He also, accoridng to him, had forces within the building in Oakland that were actively sabotaging him and working against him. That isnt the case with Bryce. And despite what we know and saw from Russell, because of his physical ability, everyone will always wonder "what if?" because of his potential. Bryce studies film, knows the gameplans, but just fuging sucks and doesn't have the physical ability to execute winning professional football plays consistently. There is no what if, because he's trying his best with limited ability. So, in my book, factoring that in as well as the cost to move up to take him, Bryce is by far the bigger bust.

My only hope at this point, as I've said elsewhere, is that the only way to break out of this hell is for us to back into fortune by accident or happenstance - I think hiring Evero as DC may have been that incidental fortune, especially if he comes out of this shitstorm as our new HC. Now, I still have tons of concerns about the FO and especially if Tepper is the one making those decisions, but at least we'll know HC won't be a concern and Evero will get the most out of a roster.

Respect. I was referring more to guys capable of producing... like Sanders, Hubbard, Hurst, Chark, Viska, ISM, etc. The OL has been pure poo this year and shouldn't get much say in the matter other than mentioning that they're being forced to play in a style they're not comfortable with. I was thinking more like the OL has a chance every snap to do their job and make a difference, but when you are a playmaker that relies on the QB to get you the ball and you're essentially just running around out there taking a beating and not even being given a real chance to do anything and the game gets thrown away without you even being invovled - that has to be an empty ass feeling. And people can say what they want, but unless injuries really just made Chark ass in one offseason, there is no excuse for him to be this invisible. And Hurst isn't an all-pro, but he's a solid TE, and he also may as well not even be on the roster. And as has been discussed here ad nauseum, Laviska is probably the best bang-for-your buck playmaker on the roster who is a danger to break off a TD on any given touch and we can only manufacture 1 touch for him all game? So you have guys that have proven themselves capable just out there, not involved, when they were sold a bill of goods that they were essentially the revamped playmaker group that was going to help our #1 pick hit the ground running and win rookie of the year. We'll, they're not getting touches and the #1 pick is losing games with his decisions. It's just deflating.

It was a hell of a play, but it's also not possible if that throw has any level of zip on it. Can't jump it if it doesn't float to the outside or is placed to the outside shoulder and up. It just died. His arm is weak.

And as a guy who had always been critical of Jameis as a pro, he also countered that with plenty of TDs to his own receivers. I think the running joke that season was from Arians about you never know if it's gonna be a TD to one team or the other on any given Jameis throw... but Jameis could and has still won games with his arm - which you expect from a franchise QB. Bryce is not capable of countering his mistakes bc he needs his supporting cast to make the plays for him bc he can't make them himself. Tired of this poo.

That pick six pretty much seals it. That makes at least 4 games this season that Bryce has singlehandedly lost off of pivotal turnovers. He forced a weak ass throw to a drag route to Mingo that was well covered and never even looked at a wide open Tremble over the the middle. These are the kind of plays that you expect a mid to late round rookie with any type of awareness to recognize and execute, let alone someone touted as a super processor worthy of the #1 pick. He then follows that play up with a fumble on a fake pitch where he just dropped the ball, which I have never seen from a grown man in my life. He is bad. And this isn't a personal attack on him - I actually am starting to feel bad for him because it's embarrassing. Is the coaching a problem? Sure. Is the scheme not great? Sure. But, sometimes, all of the other facets look worse and suffer when you're trying to protect and mask just how bad the guy pulling the trigger actually is. So many of our problems in scheme are related to the offense trying to tailor to the throws Bryce is comfortable making and avoid attempting the ones he isn't. At this point, it's beating a dead horse, but regardless of who is responsible, the only way forward is to acknowledge we selected the biggest bust in draft history and we need to rectify it. I've just seen enough now at this point to know that yes, there are a lot of problems, but the majority of those problems hinge on Bryce. And when a guy is special, you see plays that would flash and translate regardless of scheme or coaching, and sadly, the majority of Bryce's flash plays are bad ones that cost us the game... that typically is indicative of a player just not being good. After seeing today, despite the penalties, I honestly want to see what the team looks like for a few weeks with Dalton at the helm. If the offense looks just as bad, then can Reich. And to be clear, I was ready to fire Reich weeks ago... but I'm convinced much of the issue now is Bryce and the staff trying to accommodate him. Give Dalton a few games and if we still look like poo, promote Evero and clean house. But at this point, I just don't know how you can keep trotting your vets out there and feel they can give 100% when they know this kid you sold the farm for is throwing games away because he just isn't very good at all and is committing mistakes that no QB should be making... It's so discouraging.

Yup. And floated that pass on top of his super processor malfunctioning and him not seeing Tremble was wide open.

It's that "adequate" arm strength.

Please just play Dalton the rest of the year. Bryce is fuging horrible.

Lol and the home crowd goes wild

People can say what they want, but I've been thinking about this for awhile now - Tremble is a damn good football player. He is not perfect, but he is our best TE and I think he still has a ton of untapped potential. He's not JAG. He just hasn't been put in positions to succeed between dumbass coaching and horrible QB play.

Refs giving an awful lot of free play on these forward progress plays.

This offense gives Nyquil a run for its money.

The drag underneath was wide open and Bryce elected to throw the flat at a horrible angle with no separation.

I dont think he wants to log more miles than a soccer player only to never get a target.

Bryce is fuging horrible man. He just ran straight into pressure because he always tries to flush out to the same side... and again, the receiver was still open and he throws it 5 yards out of bounds.

What? Was that not "the throw we've been waiting to see"? Those defenders seem to be scattering quicker than roaches when the lights come on.

Smh. Man, we drafted the biggest bust ever.

Give me Evero as HC now. Again, the only way we're gonna a get out of this hell Tepper has created is by accident or happenstance... and us just happening to already have our future HC on the staff after the hire of Reich in the first place is just the kind of luck we need right now.

Considering how bereft of talent we are even with starters, there isn't exactly a huge drop-off to their backups, honestly... and even if there was, having a guy in there who holds his own and won't singlehandedly extend a drive leading to points they otherwise wouldn't have had with a dumbass penalty is a better option.

Quote from Kevin Burkhardt during our game, just now. We have now extended three different drives in the first half with dumbass personal foul penalties on failed 3rd down and insanely long attempts, with the last one now resulting in a TD to end the half. How can Reich possibly survive after this game?

Yeah Reich is gone

P. U.

Only the Panthers would get a facemask/horse collar combo on a 3rd and 19 about 10 yards short of the marker.

I mean they are getting instant pressure, but everyone knows how I feel about Bryce - pressure or not, he is going to fug up... I'm just trying to be fair. But again, the thing is, if he was a player actually worthy of a number one pick, those guys make everyone around them better and always seem to make a play when there seemingly isnt one and make the right decision, but Bryce is the complete antithesis of all of that.