Proudiddy

Yes. I was actually excited about Ickey when we drafted him and I usually hate picking OLs in the first. He had all the tools and build of a cornerstone, franchise LT. I thought it was as close to a surefire hit as we could’ve made under the Fitterer years. In hindsight, I think we honestly could’ve plugged a random UDFA at LT or had a revolving door there in the same amount of time since Ickey been here and had equal to better results.

So, I think what we’ve learned in this stretch since BY has been back in the lineup is BY isn’t as bad as he looked, but he still isn’t the future, and Canales is a really good coach who can get the most out of any QB. Today, the defense and OL have been a huge problem, but I think we’re still in this game without Bryce’s turnovers. He’s not as horrible as he looked last year and the first two games this year, but he is still only a backup-level QB in the pros. The fumbles are one thing, but that can of corn he just threw on top of that? We’ve seen enough.

And then there's that... so, like I said, let's see if he can sustain it and build on it. He really did look good today, but I agree - the reason I didn't want him since college is because I didn't feel he had the tools to excel in the NFL either... but, we'll see.

Pretty much this. I have been a critic and detractor of Young since college. He looked surprisingly, and yet convincingly good today. Let's see if it's sustainable... ideally, for the benefit of our franchise, if he can figure it out and parallel with Canales continuing along the trajectory he's on, we would have a LOT less to worry about for the future, obviously.

Here, let's try it like this... Bryce is playing better. Bryce is still not a starting-caliber QB in the NFL and severely hampers this team.

Yeah, he definitely isn't as mobile and elusive. But to me, his decision making has looked really underwhelming compared to the past... but that could all stem from his inability to move how he's used to and then he's frustrated and overcompensating.

I didn't even know who TMac was until now. I still like Hunter better. He is a gamechanger and dynamic. I think obviously he'd be more of a DB snd used much like Woodson, Deion, and Hester were early... mostly just a guy to run streaks if you do use them on offense to stretch the field, but otherwise, they're primarily DBs. I watched something recently where a former pro WR (might've been Ocho?) critiqued Hunter's route running and they said he just isn't very refined... he's just an incredible athlete. Still would be fun to have the possibility.

I used to get excited about questions like this... now it just depresses me bc I'm like, "oh no! But what about pass rushers? What about a QB?" Our team is so fuged up.

Picture a world where a guy who couldn't hold Chase Daniel's jock as an NFL QB swindled a dumbass franchise into drafting them number 1 overall. Welp, you don't have to bc we did it! He might trick one more team, but after that, he's going to wash out fast.

ARod is clearly not what we thought he was... that system and coaching in GB clearly had something to do with his, Favre, and now Love's success. Yes, Rodgers had incredible physical tools, and yes he's pushing 40 and coming off an achilles, but from the poo I've seen him fug up this year, it has very little to do with age or injuries. That offense has explosive weapons and the defense was already legit. He just doesn't look good.

Yeah, Ewers is not a first rounder. 3rd at best. Ward honestly looks like the most dynamic playmaker with the ability to pick up/carry teammates - an actual franchise QB.

Tbh, all the people complaining about it being a wasted pick are ignoring how using it on Brooks was actually really a great plan for the long-term... RBs usually tend to crap out shortly after their rookie contract is up, OR they sign for a mega deal and then go south so fast that the value is never there. So, as much as I love Chuba and am proud of the player he has become, it's really smart to draft a rookie with this much potential as the contingency plan for the next 4 years... it sets us up great if we can find a QB bc we'll have a potential superstar RB on a dirt cheap deal. The way the modern NFL is - nobody wants to be on the hook for a well-earned second RB contract, so no matter how much we love Chuba, the smart move is to let him sign elsewhere when his contract is up (unless he gave us a huge sweetheart deal, but not many players are in the business of giving money away).

Yeah, back when we were competitive, I hated both of these teams... now I just get to appreciate fun, good, well-played quality football.

Yeah... Rattler is throwing fuging DAWTS.

Just posted the same. But again, I think it goes back to the criteria I look for in a franchise QB (which doesn't have to be a #1 overall pick) - can a guy make plays for himself AND others and create plays that aren't there when things breakdown? Does he make those around him better? Bryce is like the antithesis of all of those traits. poo is embarrassing that we had a office full of so-called experts who decided to fug over the whole trajectory of our franchise for a guy who can't couldn't excel as an NFL QB if he was throwing to prime Rice, Moss, and TO, with a fuging all-pro starting 5 OL. And Rattler isn't just marginally better- he is fuging markedly better, and playing with way less.