Proudiddy

Is Sellars not coming out this year? If not, sign Lance and draft Mendoza. See if the Browns would trade Shedeur.

Idk man, I think it’s necessary. There’s people working 9-5s everyday that get told poo about what they aren’t and what they’re not capable of and they’re working for scraps. These guys are making millions. People are watching and invested because their team and fandom is a part of their identity and a big source of pride. When someone like Bryce comes in and is given chance after chance after chance after proving he is not worthy of the position he’s being gifted, and he continues to be the biggest reason above any that we are losing, yeah… I think it’s fair to call a spade a spade. Am I saying Bryce the person is trash? Bryce the person is a piece of poo? Absolutely not. I came up in an era, especially in basketball, where if you were fuging up people heckled the poo out of you. I played in rec leagues as a teen where the fuging parents were calling kids trash and yelling poo like “TURNOVER!!! TURNOVER!!!” “CANT DRIBBLE!” “CANT SHOOT!” And that’s adults screaming that poo to kids like we were in the fuging Rucker lol. I went on to play basketball at a collegiate level and with professional players in different settings. What those experiences as a kid taught me was to see if there is any merit to what people are saying, and if there is, then work my ass off til they can’t say that anymore. Come back better, tougher, harder. And I did. If kids can figure that poo out, an adult calling another adult who is bad at his job while making millions and millions of dollars will be just fine.

I’m not losing us games. You want to hitch your wagon to the “cut your nose off to spite your face” express? Have at it. I want our team to win. Again, fvck Bryce.

Ngl, I said it before but we as a team have a freakishly horrible history when it comes to head injuries… like way worse than any other team I’m aware of. Luke technically retired under his own terms, but i feel the concussions fast-tracked that and were a huge reason he did. I’ll never forget the night he got one against the Eagles in prime time, iirc, and when he came back to and sat up, he was crying uncontrollably. Scary poo. I remember hearing elsewhere later that he was actually crying at the time because when he sat up he was blind and couldn’t see anything. That shook me up seeing a guy like Luke in that condition on the field. Aside from that, Michael Oher suffered a concussion he never recovered from that ended his career. Hayden Hurst the same. And then Josey Jewell. I’m not aware of that many players with one organization whose careers came to an end because of concussions, especially in that time frame.

This reads as someone trying to suggest changes while treading lightly so Daddy Tepper doesn’t come down too hard on them. Because flatly, the problem is Bryce. I don’t think Canales is a perfect coach, but you can see the limitations in what can be called, what is called, and the amount of times Bryce fugs up plays all by himself. Someone brought up the bootlegs being useless because there is always a free defender rushing - think about how different that play looks with a 6’2”+ QB with a strong arm and mobility. I can’t count the number of times Bryce has thrown and missed bc he can’t see, it gets deflected, he chucks it away, or his patented run and fumble just on bootlegs and roll outs. By percentage of those plays per player I have ever watched, Bryce has more negative plays WITHOUT A fuging DOUBT than anyone I have ever watched before. Like an uncanny ability to fug up the simplest of things. I have never seen anything like it. And then, as I mentioned in the other thread, when you string those seemingly one-off plays together, and those stack over the course of a game, poo looks really disjointed. It is Bryce. Enough of this nebulous ass “something’s afoot!” bullshit.

Think about how many backups around the league you would trust to come into a game and easily throw for 200 yards on 60% completion pct (something Bryce struggles with). I would be willing to say it’s between half to 2/3s of them. Realistically, and being a little generous here, if there are 64 starters and backups, Bryce would rank somewhere in the 48-64 range among them all, and I actually think he’s a lot closer to 56-64, but either way, he is in career journeyman/practice squad/probably not good enough to hold down an NFL gig territory. He is probably out of the league once he’s out of here.

I think people fail to realize, if you look at each drive, all the little “oops” plays add up. Almost every drive, Bryce bails on a play. If every drive I accept no yardage is a okay for a play. But the. The next play my RB only gains 2 yards. Then I try to throw again on 3rd down and 8 and I only gain 6 yards then we punt - that poo happens every fuging drive. It isn’t the one play. It’s the cumulative effect of Bryce. It stagnates the offense completely. And Canales has tried to give him the chance to showcase himself, like last night, and that is when you truly get to see how bad he is. One throw away here, one scared to throw so I tuck it and run for a yard there, one could’ve ran it into the end zone myself but floated a loaf of bread to be picked off in the end zone in goal to go… all that poo adds up.

An article from SI shared by @Gregg S in another thread that deserved a closer look. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t. https://www.si.com/nfl/time-for-panthers-to-move-on-from-bryce-young Young was brilliant against the Falcons in a 30–27 overtime win last weekend, throwing for 448 yards and three touchdowns. In his other 10 starts, Young has 1,673 yards with 12 touchdowns and nine interceptions on 5.6 YPA. … Ultimately, none of it matters if Canales and general manager Dan Morgan can’t find better play at the game’s paramount position. Going into Monday night, Young had started 38 games (playing in 40). His career EPA is -269.1. For comparison, the embattled Tua Tagovailoa has started 39 games over that same span. His EPA is 123.1. Since Young entered the NFL in 2023, he ranks 32nd of 32 qualifying quarterbacks (minimum of 900 plays) in EPA + CPOE at 0.029. He’s also last in success rate (41.9%) and EPA per play (-0.074). In short, he’s the worst quarterback in football since joining the NFL after starring at Alabama.

Both Darnold and Mayfield showed glimpses of what they could be before they got here. Both also have oodles more of ability physically than Bryce could ever dream of. That’s why both Sam and Baker have garnered all of the opportunities they have because teams knew if they could get them to have some consistency, they would be special. Bryce will do absolutely nothing of significance when he leaves here. I’ve seen people make the Brees analogy as a possible outcome, but again, Brees had made a Pro Bowl in San Diego before going to the Saints. He had shown tremendous potential before he went elsewhere. And a more mobile Brees was my comp for what Bryce could be if he was to live up to all the point guard, super processor bullshit this FO was selling even though I never believed. I watched Brees in college and in San Diego and you knew he as good. He was talented. He was smart. He had promise. Again, you could see the same things in Baker and Sam. When I watch Bryce I don’t see any of that. At all. I remember how frustrated I was in watching Teddy when he was our starting QB and how neutered the offense felt because he wouldn’t push the ball. And I was a fan of Teddy in college. But, Bryce makes Teddy look like fuging Tom Brady. That’s how fuging bad Bryce is.

I’ve said it before, but I wish I had just one person at some point in my life that believed in me with such unfounded conviction and were willing to put all of their assets and resources behind me in that belief the way this entire organization has with Bryce. One fuging person. And this dude has fooled an entire organization. It is maddening. And the thing is, for anyone else, even other NFL QBs, decision makers would have bailed, at minimum, after that 2nd year, many after the first 1-1.5 seasons.

Completely agree and have been saying the same since his rookie year, but ESPECIALLY after last season. But as I shared earlier in the thread, on the radio broadcast when they said Morgan was gloating to them, “He’s feeling great. Just watch!” Not one single moment have I ever felt enough confidence in Bryce to tell others “just watch!” He hasn’t shown any consistency whatsoever, so this completely irrational, delusional, and unfounded belief and confidence coming from football professionals in Bryce I just can’t fuging understand in the least. Morgan has seen the same poo we have and you’re telling others “just watch” what he does like it’s gonna be some guaranteed Cam-esque performance is borderline psychotic.

Name the last time you saw a QB struggle to get 150 passing yards every game and keep their job? This is NOT normal and we’ve just accepted it.

It’s still insane. Even taking into consideration Bryce’s Atlanta games, he is the worst #1 overall pick that has ever started for the length of time he has. He has given us zero reason to invest further in him, but our franchise is so fuging cursed and dysfunctional, this is a legitimate concern for our fanbase.

The fact we’ve seen what we’ve seen and are, as a fanbase, still worried about the possibility that our FO will extend him is literally fuging insane.

Can you imagine how last night played out with the way our defense was playing after that first drive? An average QB who you can count on to make the right decisions more often than not - We’re up 21-7 at half and run the clock out. That game isn’t even close. Bryce is so bad he makes what should be a likely outcome the negative and complete inverse. If they had a plus/minus stat in football like in basketball, Bryce on average would be a -18 or somewhere about. And that’s your fuging starting qb. If he’s a net negative every game, your whole team suffers and are just as bad as a consequence. So guys who would be a +10 with an average QB are now -10s every game. He is a fuging parasite. And not only is he destroying the careers and success of those around him, but he’s literally sucking the life out of the fanbase.