Proudiddy

Here, let's try it like this... Bryce is playing better. Bryce is still not a starting-caliber QB in the NFL and severely hampers this team.

Yeah, he definitely isn't as mobile and elusive. But to me, his decision making has looked really underwhelming compared to the past... but that could all stem from his inability to move how he's used to and then he's frustrated and overcompensating.

I didn't even know who TMac was until now. I still like Hunter better. He is a gamechanger and dynamic. I think obviously he'd be more of a DB snd used much like Woodson, Deion, and Hester were early... mostly just a guy to run streaks if you do use them on offense to stretch the field, but otherwise, they're primarily DBs. I watched something recently where a former pro WR (might've been Ocho?) critiqued Hunter's route running and they said he just isn't very refined... he's just an incredible athlete. Still would be fun to have the possibility.

I used to get excited about questions like this... now it just depresses me bc I'm like, "oh no! But what about pass rushers? What about a QB?" Our team is so fuged up.

Picture a world where a guy who couldn't hold Chase Daniel's jock as an NFL QB swindled a dumbass franchise into drafting them number 1 overall. Welp, you don't have to bc we did it! He might trick one more team, but after that, he's going to wash out fast.

ARod is clearly not what we thought he was... that system and coaching in GB clearly had something to do with his, Favre, and now Love's success. Yes, Rodgers had incredible physical tools, and yes he's pushing 40 and coming off an achilles, but from the poo I've seen him fug up this year, it has very little to do with age or injuries. That offense has explosive weapons and the defense was already legit. He just doesn't look good.

Yeah, Ewers is not a first rounder. 3rd at best. Ward honestly looks like the most dynamic playmaker with the ability to pick up/carry teammates - an actual franchise QB.

Tbh, all the people complaining about it being a wasted pick are ignoring how using it on Brooks was actually really a great plan for the long-term... RBs usually tend to crap out shortly after their rookie contract is up, OR they sign for a mega deal and then go south so fast that the value is never there. So, as much as I love Chuba and am proud of the player he has become, it's really smart to draft a rookie with this much potential as the contingency plan for the next 4 years... it sets us up great if we can find a QB bc we'll have a potential superstar RB on a dirt cheap deal. The way the modern NFL is - nobody wants to be on the hook for a well-earned second RB contract, so no matter how much we love Chuba, the smart move is to let him sign elsewhere when his contract is up (unless he gave us a huge sweetheart deal, but not many players are in the business of giving money away).

Yeah, back when we were competitive, I hated both of these teams... now I just get to appreciate fun, good, well-played quality football.

Yeah... Rattler is throwing fuging DAWTS.

Just posted the same. But again, I think it goes back to the criteria I look for in a franchise QB (which doesn't have to be a #1 overall pick) - can a guy make plays for himself AND others and create plays that aren't there when things breakdown? Does he make those around him better? Bryce is like the antithesis of all of those traits. poo is embarrassing that we had a office full of so-called experts who decided to fug over the whole trajectory of our franchise for a guy who can't couldn't excel as an NFL QB if he was throwing to prime Rice, Moss, and TO, with a fuging all-pro starting 5 OL. And Rattler isn't just marginally better- he is fuging markedly better, and playing with way less.

Rattler, drafted in the 5th round... also a better starting NFL QB than the piece of poo we traded DJ Moore and draft picks for to take #1 overall.

Was just listening to ESPN radio while running errands, and the question was what rookie QB lost the most games in their rookie year in NFL history. They all guessed guys like Tory Aikman... I quietly sat feeling like I contently only knew the answer because I'm a Panthers fan... But they stumped me too... It wasn't Weinke, to my surprise. It was Dashone Kizer with Cleveland who lost 15 starts. I don't even remember him starting a whole season - that is wild. That being said, here is the depressing part - he then said there are 4 other rookie QBs in NFL history who have lost 14 games in their rookie season. And of course, being the Panthers, we are the only team with two of those QBs out of that four - Weinke and Bryce. Disgusting.

He had a significant injury? Dude used to be super legit.

Look, I don't think Andy is a world beater, but since leaving Cincy he hasn't exactly been in ideal situations. Outside of Dallas, he came onto teams in the middle of transition to offer a steady hand and leadership. And coming here, transition isn't the only obstacle... we are a team with almost zero depth and almost 5 years or so of drafts that we have little to nothing to show for. Now add to that, half our projected starters are injured. Who tf can win with that?