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I knew it was bad but seeing it broken down like that. TE1 was Ian Thomas. My gosh man

Cobee Bryant just released by the Falcons. I wouldn’t hate using Mike’s spot on bringing him in

I'd be so curious if he gets picked up elsewhere. Still shocked Ian did

https://www.derp/carolina-panthers-draft/55399/carolina-panthers-2025-roster-cuts-tracker

Oof. I remember a lot of people being mad we didn’t draft Simmons https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1960341355726614617?s=46&t=ID24LbHaAiOwVOmMGHXcTA

? This happened 6 months ago

We have all the leverage, I really hope we don’t do this. Give me a third or no deal, it’s literally that simple. We want him here and don’t need to trade him, you gotta make it worth it for us.

Who is the 4th? Watson?

Waived go to waivers and can be claimed, released you are free agent and can choose where to go. Think 4 years in the NFL is the cutoff

Zappe would be an awesome PS guy

WOW. We are gonna have to back the truck up in a few years if TMac pans out

I wish you the best Frank. I don't know what goes on in that head.

I think because the FO knows it's Bryce or sink this year. Build the roster up elsewhere (using these hypothetical picks we'd draft a backup QB with) so if Bryce is not the guy, we are not nearly in as bad spot as 2023. Our 2026 roster will be much better than 2023 where we could package up multiple picks to go grab Sellars or Nussmeier or Klubnik. We would not be trading up for the #1 pick next year assuming it's Manning.

What are you suggesting here? The Saints should have altered their entire QB strategy around keeping Dalton as QB2? Like I don’t even follow where you’re trying to go with this. Their decision was to get a vet QB1 in Carr, you don’t keep around an $8M QB2 in those situations.

Hold your horses on Plummer. I’m hopefully he’s gone tomorrow.

Plus he was asked to be the starter with the Saints and went 6-8. If a backup QB gets you anywhere near .500 that’s amazing value. Using his time at the saints as a negative just shows how out of touch this argument even is.

A 4th, for Jonathan Mingo? Absurd. Never would happen. Craziness.

Well the one were talking about in this hypothetical did

Yep, he was a thousand yard guy his rookie season with Arthur Smith who knew how to use him. I'd give up a third for him in a heartbeat - Falcons would never do it.

I didn’t throw anyone under the bus. It’s a fact. it happened. That can be true while also stating I won’t be overreacting about it, as I did.

I mean, no I’m not going to panic when he got 2 Qs and looked great in 1 and looked not great in another (let’s not mention the drop). Yeah we finally have a team that would be considered average offensively around him. Let’s roll this season.

We have seen Bryce play… what… 9 games with AT BEST what one would consider NFL average WRs? You just can’t see the forest for the trees and keep going back to your lazy take of revisionist history. he looked AWFUL Y1 with the worst coaching I’ve ever seen in the NFL and one of the weakest WR rooms I can recall. He looked awful first half of y2 and great second half of y2 with average coaching and average skill position. I don’t know where this elite talent argument even comes from.

So answer the question. Why did Chark and Hurst have the same metrics (go look them up, I did... and one was actually worse in LA) with Justin Herbert? Why did Mingo have the same metrics with Dak? You're right, there is a common denominator, just not the one you're trying to make. Why could DJ Moore get open with Bridgewater, Allen, Cam 2.0, Darnold, Baker, Williams, Bagent? I'll answer the question for you - because he is a good WR unlike Chark/Hurst/Mingo.

I mean I just don't understand the argument. Baker and Sam both have been pro bowl QBs post their time here. And you just said yourself that is due to him having a damn good roster around him and they are well coached. You're even saying the bad baker is still there somewhere, but he is in a good organization with good roster and coaching that they are getting the best out of him. Why does Baker and Sam get all that benefit of the doubt but when it comes to Bryce it must be a BY9 problem, not an org or team problem? Hell I got a guy below you arguing with me that Chark/Hurst/Mingo sucked because Bryce wouldn't throw them open. It's ridiculous how far the stretch goes.

What? Baker has had more success with the Bucs than the Browns. He has been statistically better than Mahomes since getting there