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What? There are 2 years of tape on Howell. He turns the ball over more than he throws TDs. Full stop, no interest in that. I'm sorry I offended you when I called him cheeks, but he is cheeks. Just because someone is not Bryce doesn't mean they aren't also bad.

I’d love to get Klubnik

We should all make a pact never to use Pro Bowls when we are arguing for or against any player on here ever again. What a joke.

Also a hypothetical because there’s been some insane WRs drafted around this range lately (JSN and Jefferson come to mind), would you take him if you knew he’d be that good?

While this would make us a top 5 WR corp in the NFL, it would also be stupid.

That should be correct. All the conditions for it to work in our favor played out

My dream FA splash signing. TMac, Coker, and Pitts would be a legit scary skill group for Bryce or whoever the next guy is. If Brooks comes back healthy to pair with Chubba, sheesh

Why is Sam Howell so loved on this board? dude is absolute cheeks

Hey man baby steps. You aren't wrong, but 2022 Tepper and Fitt would have already signed him to a 3 year extension at 50M per. There aren't really any immediate upgrade options available this year in FA or where we will be drafting so I get the approach. I am nowhere near convinced Bryce is our long term guy yet, but also have to be realistic that we have a team to field next year. Regardless, I like our approach of building an actual team this time and if in 27 or 28 we decide we need a new guy, there's an actual NFL roster around him.

Agreed. Y4 is make Or break for him. No way we give a long term contract for $30M much less $50M a year without seeing more.

Hold on now. Something seems to have gotten lost in translation here so I will make it as clear as possible. Sam Darnold is a better QB than Bryce Young at this point in their careers. I’m not criticizing Sam for anything, I’m stating in both their careers Bryce looks more clutch in the playoffs than Sam. That literally could change in 5 hours. Or maybe because of the last drive against the Rams your opinion is different. That is completely fine and I respect it. I also agree with your post quoted here. Im not addressing or arguing Frank’s red herring it’s childish and he does it every thread, we can go find that in any of the other hundreds he does if we want to re hash it. I just ask you don’t argue his false equivalence to me like I was the one who said it. Frank can argue whatever he wants to himself.

“In the playoffs” typical Frank reading comprehension issues just so he can post a boomer gif and try to hit you with a gotcha. Now for the incoming paragraph littered with fallacies

Did enough for me and the FO obviously to play out year 4

If he dies he dies. Year 4, need to know he can be the guy or not.

That’s a good point. In literally one game he showed he is more clutch in the playoffs than Sam has to date. That could of course change today.

Need a vet edge and ILB. Would be fine going young at either LT or C but not both. That being said, might not have a choice. I think Nijman is our LT next year and C a rookie. Would also take a vet safety IF we keep Evero.

You're going to rile some people up with this one lol. I agree with you, Bryce is nowhere near the physical talent Sam and Baker are with muscling a ball when it needs to be done, but he has shown over and over and over he can throw downfield.

Give me Dean, Pitts, and Mafe and I’m a very happy man. Hit OL hard in the draft. And I guess maybe another safety if Evero is here again next year.

Agreed. If you do an international trip requirement we need to find a way to give a bye after that as well. If you need to extend the season then do it

18 is inevitable, not sure about the international requirement quite yet until the NFL breaks into asian markets. Get rid of preseason completely

I think this place is jaded from Fitt's headscratching contracts and decisions, which is fair. Dan has done a good job so far of keeping the FA contracts to 2 years and then a favorable out for the team. I agree, spend a lot of money this FA and do not give up draft picks. We've waited too long in the "rebuild" stage to not take a big swing this upcoming year. If it doesn't work, we can do a reset next offseason and get a lot of our older players off the payroll in 27/28 fairly easily. I hope we spend $70M this offseason while not trading away any draft capital.

It would be more reasonable for Igo to upgrade the board with some well overdue and needed updates

25M for him feels crazy cheap. I’d pay that for 2 years

Why were people so upset about us extending Moton? I remember people were pissed around here when we did

Bryce has never had what CJ had in any of his 3 years. Just this year best defense we've seen in a while + Nico Collins. We will never know for sure, but it damn well seems Bryce can do more with less.