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I revisited this thread after a week and it seems it has taken a slight curve off topic lol so do we know if he had the surgery yet?

Thor Griffith. He and Brown coming back could take our run d from worst to very competitive

This guy could literally be the difference between 5 wins and 10 wins any given year. Glad to see we acknowledge something was wrong and made a change. Also to note, the Vikings play on artificial turf as well.

Here ya go https://www.profootballnetwork.com/travis-hunter-scouting-report-nfl-draft-2025/ basically verbatim my same take earlier in the thread

Think third after nabers and Harrison. Thomas Jr wasn’t that hyped but obviously with what we know now he would be up there too

His route running is fine for college and his insane explosiveness and body control makes him very special. But he doesn’t have the full NFL route tree currently. I think he is that much more athletic than other players in college. In the NFL we will see. Either way, a day 1 elite CB starter imo. Huge ceiling guy at WR with immediate impact

I don’t disagree with you. My pick was Ladd and I hated DM for passing on him but giving XL a fair chance. I used to get in arguments in the game threads because people would say I’m dumb for pointing out XL doesn’t even extend his arms on balls he can’t catch at least trying to draw PI or potentially break up an INT. There’s some basic basic stuff he does not do, and at his age it’s concerning. Let’s hope he gets it figured out

Not directly answering your question, but what I’ve enjoyed (and helps the offseason go by) is taking in the info from all of them then going and watch the film. Kinda fun if you come away with the same impressions. I also like to do it the other way, find a random guy with a round 4 grade or something, watch the tape, then go compare my feedback to the “pros”

I imagine there is a good reason for it but between Brooks waiting a long time for his ACL surgery and whatever is going on here, it does seem weird. XL needs the jugs more than anyone on the team, if this wrist thing holds him out until TC that’s pretty bad. XL could be a #1 if he learns to stop body cradling everything, but that takes a ton ton ton of reps

I agree with you he is clear cut #1 CB and it isn’t particularly close. And I really like Johnson as well. WR I don’t think he is the best right now but most likely has the highest ceiling. His body control and athleticism is generationally elite. He cannot run routes tho lol he’s out there playing backyard. That can be taught, but I think he ends up a full time CB in the NFL

Why are you so aggressive lol I never said that, you are going off on a completely new argument now. I said 2:1 isn’t realistic. Of course playing both ways takes more toll on the body. It also doesn’t count as 2 full years of football on a 19/20 year old, that’s just silly.

Because that obviously isn’t how wear on the body works. It isn’t a linear yearly thing therefore allowing you to multiply by 2 or 3. He’s still 21 years old

I don't think it's exactly a 2:1 translation but I see your point. Year 1 also was at JSU which for a guy of his talent is really just another year in HS.

Oh wow top 50 is pretty rough. He has absolutely elite ball tracking skills, his lack is probably on the route running side. Which yeah, not ideal coming into the NFL but can be taught. elite athleticism, body control, and ball tracking really you either have or don't. I think he would instantly be a top 50 WR but has the potential to be top 10. On the CB side I really don't see the Will Johnson is better angle. Will is good, but again Hunter is elite. An instant impact, top 10 CB year 1 kind of dude with potential to be a top 3 island type of guy. All of the above is assuming he focuses full time on one or the another.

Yeah BPA always need a caveat. For example, we wouldn't draft Jeanty there if he truly is the best left. Or another QB. It needs to be BPA at position to an extent. But LT is prob one of those positions (DE/CB the others) I feel you can make an exception and always take if it's truly the BPA unless you have a true franchise guy already there (dont think we do in Ickey).