PootieNunu

Baker isnt close to a top 10 QB. You have to name off guys like Kirk Cousins and Tannehill before thinking about Baker and they are a good ways down the list.

I was only comparing last years stats. They have both struggled during their careers in the NFL. Baker was in a much better position with a top 5 OL in Cleveland, his numbers would not be near as good playing in Carolina the past few seasons with us barely having an OL at all more like a speed bump in front of the QB. He has thrown a high number of INTs with great protection that number will go up in Carolina, he has thrown a mediocre number of TD passes per season by todays standards that will probably go down in Carolina if he is our QB, if we were playing 90s football 20td passes a year is great, in todays NFL it makes you a bottom tier starter. You have to look at the entire situation. We are just getting baker, not their OL/RB/WR/TE

Damn what those stats say! I think Baker is better and can make us competitive even though he sucked in Cleveland with a much better roster! Yea that is sound logic.

What kind of stats do you think Baker has last year in Carolina with no CMC and a bottom 3 OL, compared to a top 5 OL with 2 good RBs and decent weapons. We basically had Moore on offense and a bunch of nothing last season. I dont think his stats are much better than Sams if at all. 60% 17tds 13ints 59.9% 9tds 13ints Yea I would say Baker is pretty similar to Sam given the circumstances, they both suck. Even if you look at the advanced stats, baker had a higher % of bad throws, a lower % of on target throws than Sam, and his guys dropped less passes. Also, Sam threw away more balls than Baker did, so much for not throwing INTs on 1st and 2nd down, Baker does that too.

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/report-1-team-still-showing-interest-in-baker-mayfield-trade/599097 We are the one team interested in Baker. fug the Browns, let them keep and pay his full salary, no one else wants him. Go with what we have, Baker isnt saving our season anyway.

His play WAS elevated by having a top 5 OL in football and he was still only mediocre, maybe top 15 if you want to stretch things a bit, translate that to last years OL in Carolina and he would have looked as bad as Sam did.

Misinformation spreading. Its the way of the internet.

You say that now until he comes in and the dumbasses we have running the show hand him an extension as soon as he walks in the door and we are trying our best next year to get rid of him. Im tired of this show, this is the 3rd offseason with this Fhule and he is trying to add another washed up leftover. It has not worked out at all with the last 2, 3rd time isnt the charm.

We dont need him, with him or Sammy at the QB position we still suck and are looking for a QB, dont get caught up with this bullshit.

Baker is to the Browns as Teddy B was to us, they are willing to pay a team to take him off their hands. Yet people are still hoping we trade for him, I dont get it. The dude is trash and doesnt want to play here. We are his last choice, leave him in Cleveland.

Nobody is buying this bullshit, as soon as Corral can run the offense Sam needs to be on the bench.

And people still want to trade for him just because he is not Sam. Baker in Carolina would throw less than 20 TD passes and 10 or more ints. Lets see what the rookie has, fug these leftovers.

I have not seen anyone try to break the bank to resign Cam. He can be had for cheap and is just as good of an option as Sam or Baker, they both suck. Plus our OL is built for a power running game.

We may have a chance to apply next season if Fitt is dumb enough to trade for thus dud. Huddle for 2023 gm, all moves are decided by polls.

You missed the major point of the post that Baker is not much better than Sam. It's not a big enough upgrade to justify trading for him. I get it you love Baker because you don't really realize that football is a team sport and Baker was in a great situation in Cleveland.

It is really going to take us trading for this bum for people to realize he is not much better than Darnold, he was just in a better situation. The biggest difference is Sam is a nice guy and Baker is a douche bag.

It would be as entertaining as watching Teddy Bridgewater or Sam Darnold try to play QB.

Neither is Baker, but one of these guys does not cost 18m and draft capitol. We need to see our rookie before the next draft, Period.

He is below Kirk for me, Kirk consistently puts up top 10 QB stats, Baker is an every other year type of guy. I would rather avoid the headache altogether. It is a one year rental for Baker which would probably lead to a stupid decision to extend him. I would like to know what Corral has before next years draft.

Kitchens was only there because Mayfield wanted him. That browns team had very few holes outside of needing consistent QB play. That is why they traded away so much for a QB with major character concerns and handed him a boatload of guaranteed $. If the Browns did not think they were ready to compete for a super bowl with a good QB, they dont make that trade. If Baker is so great, why is he sitting in Cleveland with no one willing to take him to be their starter? At his point he could be had for a late round pick as long as the team is paying his 18m salary, that is a huge bargain for a legit starting QB, yet he is still in Cleveland? Yea..... Dont forget Bakers first choice was the Colts, they said thanks but no thanks and took an old ass Matt puddle Ryan

Yes they do. OR how many commercials a guy has been in. Having 15 TV commercials does not make you a good QB.

I thought we should have built the OL. I was dreaming about that since Nate Chandler and Byron Bell protecting Cam.

That guy was talking about drafting Fields with our 1 last year after trading for Darnold.

This would be the fuging worse case scenario. We dont need baker at all, much less on a long term deal. He does not have the talent to carry a middling team to the playoffs, his browns team was loaded with talent.

His roster and coaching was also significantly better in Cleveland. He is not bringing the rest of his team with him, all we get is Baker. This is a guy whose team decided to trade away the farm to replace him after picking him #1 overall, he is damaged goods. I trust his own teams evaluation of him over some random guys on the internet. I will double down, if we trade for baker he does not break 20 td passes and he throws for double digit ints.